This game would be better off without gil

[Allyrion]

I thought about it for a second. Seemed decent, then I realised I wouldn't be able to help my friends with crafting or give my wife a minion I came across. Or work together with my fc on melding.

Not every trades in an impersonal way. I'm sorry if that's your experience but I have made crafting friends where we compliment each other. Your pro's are all things you have the option to do alone anyway. The only thing it might help is the RMT. I don't think that's enough to redesign the game, the merchants and even player interaction/UI.

So yea, bad idea. Don't force people to play the way you like to. Forcing people to have to do things they don't want to do won't make them appreciate those things more. Besides that, not everyone complains about that there's not much to do. When they do, what they really mean is that there's not much to do that they like and this won't change that.


BTW, everyone responding should at least acknowledge the OP said to remove all trading with players. So bartering or shard currency etc is out of the question.

[TheMoonflow]

I don't think that's enough to redesign the game, the merchants and even player interaction/UI.

Well this was only theoretical, obviously a drastic change like this could and would never take place at this point.
If a system like this was to be in place it would have to be from the get go, or shit storms would occur

[PSxpert2011]

Don't just be dismissive. Radical ideas can lead to some interesting concepts when refined and analyzed.

"HOOOW! You have nice goods! We trade... I'll give you my goods for your goods, agreed?"

I agree but when someone has already re-invented the wheel, I don't think there's a chance in hell it'll be repeated.

The universal trade currency is gil yet we all still have the trade function and yet I don't know anyone who actually uses it!

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Just because a few small groups of people wanna exploit the opportunity of selling what's not theirs in the first place for money and breaking the ToS, it doesn't call for "radical new ideas". Criminals don't determine my fate in this life or the next. I rather put my foot down and stand up to them or suck it up. It's either Gil or GTFO. LOL

[TheMoonflow]

Congratulation, you just win the "Worst Idea ever" title.

Says the person who can't even read, let alone understand the OP

[TheMoonflow]

Just a simple question. If we don't have any form of currency, then what about the npc merchants and transportation methods?

If we don't have currency, then how are we supposed to reach Limsa Lominsa if we can't pay for the ferry or airship? If they would switch gil back to anima for teleportation, you would still need to have visited the Aetheryte before you can teleport to it. Would i then have to trade 1 or 2 stacks of Elm logs in order to use the ferry? That would be a form of currency as well.

Also, what about the merchants? They would become obsolete if we were to gather and craft everything ourselves.

Could use something like company seals for ferry's instead.

[Gilthas]

I disagree that because gilsellers/gilbuyers and winsellers/winbuyers exist that the economy should be removed from the game.

Your solution to that problem is just to make a much more blander game.

[Zfz]

With no currency and no ability to trade items

No would would buy carries and there would be no RMT

With no trading and no currency, carries will be sold for real money and there will be absolutely no way to track it, because no record of the gil exchange takes place. Entire account transactions will be untraceable.

Removing gil and trading from the game effectively removes the only viable competitors to RMT vendors, i.e. those who sell carries for ingame gil only. You either have a FC or buddies to help you with stuff, or you gotta buy with real money from RMT vendors now.


RMT vendors will also be selling accounts with the things that people would originally want to buy. Order made accounts.

If you are attached to your account and want achievements on your account?
Sure, hand over your passwords and remove your authenticator for N days and they have a pro team carrying you through whatever achievement you want.

[BlackPriest]

Last I heard you get coil gear from coil...

Yup not on the markets. Still in coil.

So.. Do you make your own food? Or even use food? What about your accessories? Do you craft them yourself as well? The game can be completely self sufficient if you want it to be. But that's your choice. Pushing this on people just sounds like you have no money and want everyone else to be poor with you.

[Roaran]

Trading at its very essence is cooperation. Basically you're removing a huge way for people to work together. You have to be really naive to make these kinds of suggestions.

[L33K]

back on stone age when we pay a sack of rice on certain services lol