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  1. #51
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    NeonC's Avatar
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    Neon Sea
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    Archer Lv 50
    Knee jerk reaction based on low skill misinformed players, not the biggest deal in the world and luckily I have been working on Monk for the single reason that I knew something like this would happen
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  2. #52
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    Kurai Shashu
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Teardropz98 View Post
    Says the Bard. Mad much bro?

    Take the nerf and move on. Got enough tears on the forums about the coming bard nerfs.

    Range still have it better then melee, Hands down. Don't bother trying to justify otherwise... cause you won't win.

    Good day gents.
    Yeah we have it better that we have 100% uptime and still manage to rank pretty much at the bottom, ofc that means we need to hit less. Sense, you make none.
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  3. #53
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    Isunia Torvold
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NyssaElf View Post
    Either A. They give bards a damage LB or B give bards there own role to queue into. Since they won't be dpses
    This so much. Bard is the only class I wanted to play in 14. That's because I played one in 11 for a long while. But the last time I checked when I queued for DF it queued me as DD and not Support.

    If you all want bard to be support make us a real support and not a hybrid. Give us back our Conjurer skills to go with our heal LB. Remove the damage penalty from songs. And our own spot in DF, since apparently the community doesn't want us as a DD.

    But whatever, I'll wait to see what nerfing we get before I reroll.
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  4. #54
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    Cynric's Avatar
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    Everyone claims Bard is second to lowest DPS. No one has a 100% properly working damage parser. This makes all the DPS parsing claims invalid for any class.

    Bard is getting nerfed due to a simple equation of power vs utility. They have too much utility for the power they put out so the power needs to be decreased.

    Bard gets the benefit of Melee(No cast times, Free movement during skills) With the benefit of Ranged (Lack of damage taken by mechanics of fights, Far ranged, Not a lot of need to dodge) While having the ability to use valuable buffs (Foe's Requiem, Paeon, Mana song)

    They also currently get damage buff CD's from both the other damage classes while those classes share Cross Class skills with tank classes (which really doesn't give them much).

    Bard's also overpopulate the servers and groups, and is one of the most wanted classes (Not for damage but for utility and ease of play) and one of the more played classes simply for being easy to use.

    Bard nerf was incoming, They can do too much for one class. They have too many pro's and your only con is what? A damage reduction of 20% while singing? parsing on non accurate parsers as 2nd lowest DPS?(Which for the utility you bring and how easy the class is , that's still really good)
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  5. #55
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    Leera Myr
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 50
    I'm not that worried about the change on bard just yet, but what I really want is a bit more utility if damage nerf is actually coming. I've been told that bards had more songs in 1.0 like increased damage on party members and speed. I also think it'd be nice if TP cost on rain of death is reduced so we'd be able to use it far more often than we can now or else we'd be TP starved(invigorate isn't enough, and I usually need my MP to sing for the healers).. I mean we were meant to be a support class, right? I wouldn't even mind if they reduced the already low 100 potency damage on rain of death to get this change, but hey, that's just me..

    Honestly I was a bit disappointed when bard changed from conjurer to pugilist subclass and leaned more towards on dps but that isn't to say I don't like my bard right now
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  6. #56
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    Leon_Stormrage's Avatar
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    Leon Stormrage
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    The best thing that SE can do is add cast time to blood letter or a debuff while we are moving but nerfing damage is not a great idea, we really don't have so much damage is the movility why we can parse equal than other melee dps the thing here is that the battle mechanics are not equal for all classes but this is going to change too so I really don't think that putting the thing easier to a melee dps and nerfing damage to a range dps will solve the issue, We will se where the things go in PVP I only hope that SE don't get the Bard useless
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  7. #57
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    Leera Myr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon_Stormrage View Post
    The best thing that SE can do is add cast time to blood letter or a debuff while we are moving but nerfing damage is not a great idea, we really don't have so much damage is the movility why we can parse equal than other melee dps the thing here is that the battle mechanics are not equal for all classes but this is going to change too so I really don't think that putting the thing easier to a melee dps and nerfing damage to a range dps will solve the issue, We will se where the things go in PVP I only hope that SE don't get the Bard useless
    nah we're not casters, don't make us into World of warcraft hunters please
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  8. #58
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    Leon Stormrage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecreuset View Post

    Honestly I was a bit disappointed when bard changed from conjurer to pugilist subclass and leaned more towards on dps but that isn't to say I don't like my bard right now
    The problem with that is that you get skills from other classes that will be in the party and make your skill useless because are less effective than the skills coming for the owner class
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  9. #59
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    Actually changing the mechanics to be easier on melee is probably the only part I don't agree with. If they nerf one thing they don't really need to nerf the mechanics.
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  10. #60
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    Leon Stormrage
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecreuset View Post
    nah we're not casters, don't make us into World of warcraft hunters please
    This is only in one skill and we can pay more attention to the battle mechanics, if that is the way I think that is going to be more fun to play
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