Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

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I'm actually surprised with this nerf, I find bard damage to be lackluster...

It is... and that's on content at the moment where we don't currently require our utility often. I use song during DPS phases of 1 fight in the entire game at the moment and that's Turn 4. I put out TP during 2nd AoE wave and RARELY use MP song after the 2nd Dred is killed if the WHM needs it. We run zero Magic DD so there's no need for requiem. Rain of Death it's pretty trivial on most fights with how much damage mitigation Paladin has it's mainly better to conserve the 200 TP and just keep DPSing consistently. So long story short on majority of numbers being run we aren't even nerfing out DPS out-put and we are still in the bottom 2 classes as far as competent coil players go.

The problem here is perception, the majority of the player base has a warped view of how classes preform at their max potential. (Mr.Happy was in the stream translation chat tonight though and agreed; So hopefully he can sway some sheeple into reconsidering.) Which leads me to believe SE isn't testing a damn thing, but just going by word of mouth and first glance. During the interview they were talking about their perception of the classes when they were doing Ifrit on their characters.

[Leonas]

Kinda saw it coming.

Not because of damage, but because of how much easier it is compared to others. The mobility combined with good damage makes them the least likely and easiest to avoid aoe pits.

Plus the fact they get the songs which are highly desired, and an on demand silence.

[nakano13]

So, did they officially say what specific nerfs they are doing to the damage output or is it just going to affect damage as a whole? We already get the 20% dps reduction from playing songs...

[TyloRime]

So..the devs don't have parsers of their own and have no way of seeing how Bards are currently doing in Coil?

[AldricBranchais]

I welcome the change, there's already way too many bards running around. I'm willing to take a damage nerf (even though i'm already mid to low on the dps charts in coil) if they would just make my songs useful, or give me more of em. like when was the last time anyone used peon?

When I'm burning through my TP as a MNK, and Invigorate's on CD.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Perfect desicion.

Bard should be THE worst, not second or third, but the lowest DPS of the DPS for obvius reasons, he is an hybrid and has a lot of AoE. Having also a competent DPS and from range was too much flexibility for just one character.

[NyssaElf]

So, did they officially say what specific nerfs they are doing to the damage output or is it just going to affect damage as a whole? We already get the 20% dps reduction from playing songs...

Always assume the worse cause it usually is.
I'm fine with no mobility, like in WKC. I can't think of a mmo off the top of my head in which you can move and attack.
But if its a damage nerf. Either A. They give bards a damage LB or B give bards there own role to queue into. Since they won't be dpses

[Powercow]

So, did they officially say what specific nerfs they are doing to the damage output or is it just going to affect damage as a whole? We already get the 20% dps reduction from playing songs...

Well the paragraph right before did mention that certain cross-class skills are making some classes more powerful, so perhaps they're aiming at that. I could see them making Internal Release a melee-only buff (monks, dragoons, warriors only) and calling it a day there. It'd bring Bards down a notch without totally ripping them apart.

Buuuut this is Square-Enix, and man when they nerfed Ranger in FFXI, they gimped the hell out of them for years. So who knows?

[ChaozK]

I think straight up nerfing dps sounds like a bad idea, because bards would run into problems on tank and spank fights. Instead i could see them for example doing an animation lock on miserys end and bloodletter for example. That way they still do 100% of their dps in static fights but are affected by dodging AOEs.

[Teardropz98]

Bad scrub brain dead melee dps get Fcked. Cleave do not hit flank target, and aoe hit both melee and range. Oh repelling shot does only hit melee dps indeed and having to move for 3s every 30s fck melee dps so hard, sure hard.

Says the Bard. Mad much bro?

Take the nerf and move on. Got enough tears on the forums about the coming bard nerfs.

Range still have it better then melee, Hands down. Don't bother trying to justify otherwise... cause you won't win.

Good day gents.