Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[Anonydort]

I welcome the change, there's already way too many bards running around. I'm willing to take a damage nerf (even though i'm already mid to low on the dps charts in coil) if they would just make my songs useful, or give me more of em. like when was the last time anyone used peon?

[AldricBranchais]

I welcome the change, there's already way too many bards running around. I'm willing to take a damage nerf (even though i'm already mid to low on the dps charts in coil) if they would just make my songs useful, or give me more of em. like when was the last time anyone used peon?

When I'm burning through my TP as a MNK, and Invigorate's on CD.

[NyssaElf]

That "thing" has been around forever. It's not new. People made thread after thread calling out for a Bard nerf. SE took those into consideration, and perhaps their own numbers, and it happened. If the nerf is too severe or, in retrospect, unnecessary, bards will make thread after thread calling for a buff--and they will get it.

Because now its going to be a cycle bards get nerfed. Everyone goes to blm. Everyone cries nerf. Then everyone goes to smn. Everyone cries nerf etc etc. Which eveyone gets nerfed then buffed. Instead of going through the headache. Just leave well enough alone

[Kroktar]

I think most of people doing coils agree that bard its the lowest DPS.

So the main problem its that bard it was less gear dependant, so at early levels bard seems just OP.

I wish they could have fixed the early problems instead doing something which could affect the end game also.

[RyuDragnier]

I need details on this nerf. How much are we talking about? Is it just a mobility nerf with some skills having a charge time, a DPS nerf that is reasonable (like I dunno, 10% with the further damage drop removed from songs), an unreasonable DPS nerf, what? I can't make a decision without more details. If it's really bad, I'm prepared to cry out. Until more details come out, I'll wait to see what approaches us.

[glim]

I'm actually surprised with this nerf, I find bard damage to be lackluster...

[Relapse]

I'm actually surprised with this nerf, I find bard damage to be lackluster...

It is... and that's on content at the moment where we don't currently require our utility often. I use song during DPS phases of 1 fight in the entire game at the moment and that's Turn 4. I put out TP during 2nd AoE wave and RARELY use MP song after the 2nd Dred is killed if the WHM needs it. We run zero Magic DD so there's no need for requiem. Rain of Death it's pretty trivial on most fights with how much damage mitigation Paladin has it's mainly better to conserve the 200 TP and just keep DPSing consistently. So long story short on majority of numbers being run we aren't even nerfing out DPS out-put and we are still in the bottom 2 classes as far as competent coil players go.

The problem here is perception, the majority of the player base has a warped view of how classes preform at their max potential. (Mr.Happy was in the stream translation chat tonight though and agreed; So hopefully he can sway some sheeple into reconsidering.) Which leads me to believe SE isn't testing a damn thing, but just going by word of mouth and first glance. During the interview they were talking about their perception of the classes when they were doing Ifrit on their characters.

[Leonas]

Kinda saw it coming.

Not because of damage, but because of how much easier it is compared to others. The mobility combined with good damage makes them the least likely and easiest to avoid aoe pits.

Plus the fact they get the songs which are highly desired, and an on demand silence.

[Bongcrosby]

Kinda saw it coming.

Not because of damage, but because of how much easier it is compared to others. The mobility combined with good damage makes them the least likely and easiest to avoid aoe pits.

Plus the fact they get the songs which are highly desired, and an on demand silence.

It's just as easy for any class to avoid "aoe pits". Bards don't move faster than any other class.

[KrayZee]

It's just as easy for any class to avoid "aoe pits". Bards don't move faster than any other class.

its not as easy for other classes to do what they are supossed to do effectively though, which is what he was going at
a bards, rather... ridicilously easy, "rotation" also helps with that