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  1. #31
    Player
    Enono's Avatar
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    Penelo Argustus
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 45
    Oh, the nerf stick, went through it as a Warlock many times for being too OP. ARC/BRD is the only class that fits my playing style. Long range and minimum casting time. Eh, so what are they going to do? Either they lower damage or reduce mobility. So if the nerf is substantial, I'll just be a lowbie until a new class arrives and play just to level up crafting and gathering all day, lol. I guess other melees should be happy. One less Bard..I guess that was the point of the nerf, right?
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  2. #32
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    Sabaoth Beonaria
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NyssaElf View Post
    So is this going to be a thing now. People complain cause they can't play there role and cry nerf and get it. Lol what's next you whm do to much damage with holy. You need a nerf
    That "thing" has been around forever. It's not new. People made thread after thread calling out for a Bard nerf. SE took those into consideration, and perhaps their own numbers, and it happened. If the nerf is too severe or, in retrospect, unnecessary, bards will make thread after thread calling for a buff--and they will get it.
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  3. #33
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    Allyrion Windwalker
    World
    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    I want to believe SE has better numbers and simulators than us, that informed this decision. The nerf shouldn't be too significant since they're already low damage. Maybe they'll just be more affected by the environmental effects. Their utility will still keep them valuable if that's the case.
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  4. #34
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    Ashlae Lori
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    Adamantoise
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    Still waiting to hear some details. I'm not too worried as 2.1 is quite a long ways off. Until then, I'll keep enjoying being the top DPS in any group I happen to be apart of.
    Either sarcasm or many you have run with bad groups. Brds are never on top in the groups I run with
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  5. #35
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    Anonydort's Avatar
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    Dort Helper
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 60
    I welcome the change, there's already way too many bards running around. I'm willing to take a damage nerf (even though i'm already mid to low on the dps charts in coil) if they would just make my songs useful, or give me more of em. like when was the last time anyone used peon?
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  6. #36
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    Saryn Aide
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sabaoth View Post
    That "thing" has been around forever. It's not new. People made thread after thread calling out for a Bard nerf. SE took those into consideration, and perhaps their own numbers, and it happened. If the nerf is too severe or, in retrospect, unnecessary, bards will make thread after thread calling for a buff--and they will get it.
    Because now its going to be a cycle bards get nerfed. Everyone goes to blm. Everyone cries nerf. Then everyone goes to smn. Everyone cries nerf etc etc. Which eveyone gets nerfed then buffed. Instead of going through the headache. Just leave well enough alone
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  7. #37
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    Kroktar Thalius
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    I think most of people doing coils agree that bard its the lowest DPS.

    So the main problem its that bard it was less gear dependant, so at early levels bard seems just OP.

    I wish they could have fixed the early problems instead doing something which could affect the end game also.
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  8. #38
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    Character
    Lisotte Poena
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    I want to believe SE has better numbers and simulators than us, that informed this decision. The nerf shouldn't be too significant since they're already low damage. Maybe they'll just be more affected by the environmental effects. Their utility will still keep them valuable if that's the case.
    I think their numbers are a bit screwy. Last time they did that census thing everything was a bit thrown off because they counted everyone's low level jobs as part of the numbers. 80% of people getting CNJ to lvl 15 doesn't mean that 80% of all healers are WHM's.
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  9. #39
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I need details on this nerf. How much are we talking about? Is it just a mobility nerf with some skills having a charge time, a DPS nerf that is reasonable (like I dunno, 10% with the further damage drop removed from songs), an unreasonable DPS nerf, what? I can't make a decision without more details. If it's really bad, I'm prepared to cry out. Until more details come out, I'll wait to see what approaches us.
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  10. #40
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    Arcanis Bladewing
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I'm actually surprised with this nerf, I find bard damage to be lackluster...
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