DPS calculation for dungeons

[Leonas]

On the other hand, I will not play AK with anyone that does not at least make the effort to upgrade their gear to lvl 50 starters. How hard is it to buy a level 50 weapon from GC...

I wonder if you have forgotten that in order to GET the level 50 GC weapon, you have to COMPLETE AK FIRST.

/snicker

[Zoalord]

lol good point.

also, speed run isnt the best idea if you have someone in the team who doesnt know how to do speed run, it will end up longer lol

[Leonas]

We all had to do AK with Welfare AF gear and 44 GC weapons. You didn't START geared yourselves. Remember that.

Anyone who complains about people geared equivilant to this in the Duty Finder for AK/WP/Ifrit needs to really grow up. You REQUIRE people to get fully decked in Full ilvl60+? Well make a party before you enter the dungeon then? I don't see the problem here.

EDIT: This is coming from a MNK with full darklight and relic weapon. Wife runs a PLD with AF2+Allaghan and a couple of DL pieces and her relic. Honestly. Who cares if someone " only " has entry level equipment equivilant for that dungeon. We never complain about someone else's gear. We'll make pointers like, " You should esuna that disease." or " You should stand over here. " etc. But whine about gear? Apparently people are pro enough to require speed runs, but not pro enough to carry effectively. :P

[Zoalord]

Exactly.

I have met a Tank in AK run through DF, he came in and saw me using GC weapon as a monk then he left.

Come on, I forgot to change it to my relic weapon, is that really necessary?

[ispano]

I wonder if you have forgotten that in order to GET the level 50 GC weapon, you have to COMPLETE AK FIRST.

/snicker

Not anymore. It's AV now. Also, you don't need the Lieutenant Weapon for AK, Sergeant's is plenty. But many don't even do that. OR go to WP, and try for DL weapons which are on par with Lt.

We all had to do AK with Welfare AF gear and 44 GC weapons. You didn't START geared yourselves. Remember that.

Anyone who complains about people geared equivilant to this in the Duty Finder for AK/WP/Ifrit needs to really grow up. You REQUIRE people to get fully decked in Full ilvl60+? Well make a party before you enter the dungeon then? I don't see the problem here.

False. I did it with WP Gear.

[Leonas]

False. I did it with WP Gear.

Point still stands. Anyhow to me tonberry king mechanic was alot more annoying in a DF pug than AK.

[ispano]

Point still stands. Anyhow to me tonberry king mechanic was alot more annoying in a DF pug than AK.

Point or not, don't make blanket statements. I looked at what the progression chain was and properly geared myself prior.

[Leonas]

Point or not, don't make blanket statements. I looked at what the progression chain was and properly geared myself prior.

Fine. A MAJORITY of people did endgame dungeons with entry level gear? Happy now? :P

EDIT: WP or AK, theres not really any difference honestly. You're looking at a mere 5 iLvls of difference.

[BlossomRose]

DPS meters and parsers are not against the rules.

They are not, themselves, a plague on the community.

Like any other tool, DPS meters can be used for right, or for wrong.

It is a legitimate use of them to point out people who have lower DPS than they should have. It is not a crime. To make martyrs of them is ridiculous-- if they are performing poorly, they NEED TO KNOW in order to improve themselves. Maybe their rotation is bad, maybe they don't even have one. Maybe they're using the wrong skills altogether.

Either way, DPS meters have good uses, and you should strongly consider that if your DPS is lower than everyone else's, with equal gear, the issue is probably on your end, and you should be trying to improve that, not try to start a pity party on the forums to try and say DPS meters are bad and should not be used (which is what it sounds like happened).

[Zoalord]

no offence, but you are not representing SE to say whether we are allow to use DPS meters, especially it is already a third party application :/