Even SE staff hates Warriors...

[Nichigo]

And regarding the paladins, no because no one ever complains about Paladins being bad :P

I seem to run into alot of bad PLDs...esp in dungeons because they seem to have to try a little harder to keep group aggro...whereas it's relatively easy for a Warrior. The thing is...I run dungeons MOST of the time (and so does everyone else). As a PLD, I find it challenging to keep group hate. Cycling through the mobs is alot of work...and I've definitely seen PLD's that can't do this efficiently.

IDK why we keep having these conversations. It's been reiterated over and over that they excel at different things. Warrior = better at managing groups, PLD = no brainer boss tank. Obviously there are deviations based on player skill/gear, but those are the differences in a nutshell.

The MAIN problem between the classes is this:

-Paladins can make up for their weaknesses in crowd management by player skill.
-Warriors tanking big bosses are hindered by their class skills and [lack of] inherent defense. It can be made up partially by skill, but they're at much more of a disadvantage than PLD's.

Does this warrant a change? Maybe. Maybe not. The issue here seems to be that alot of warriors want to be on equal playing fields with PLDs as main tanks...but maybe they're just meant to shine as group tanks and off-tanks.

I personally like seeing Warriors and Paladins as my tank in their own fair share of circumstances. I like seeing Warriors in AK. I perfer seeing a PLD in Garuda. Isn't this the same thing that happens with other classes...like Melee DPS vs. Ranged? Not sure why people think this should be treated so differently.

[Nukocafe]

As a PLD, I find it challenging to keep group hate. Cycling through the mobs is alot of work...and I've definitely seen PLD's that can't do this efficiently.

I do agree on this, I find that when partying with a warrior he can get the mob off the healer almost immediately but with a paladin I saw him running back & forth between the enemies multiple times and he couldn't get the mob off either me or my fairy until at least 1 of the mobs was dead.