Market Boards need to work like FFXI AH

[Sinbios]

Damn that wasnt hard at all to find.. I guess he has a lot of socks and puppets.

Wow someone else with no experience of the endgame economy agrees with you, you must feel so validated right now.

Just so you understand why im laughing so hard at the try hards. This was one of this guy's first replies to Bizzy.. Please notice the 'Your not that special/smart', rofl. Now try to understand why people who are against this thread's bad concept, are losing their patience when dealing with people who have trouble mustering intelligent thoughts.

I feel kind of dirty lowering myself to your level but that's funny coming from someone who doesn't understand how apostrophes, ellipses, quote marks, or capitalization work. Even funnier that Bizzybeast seems to have had the same difficulties, and that you're still referring to him in the third person. If you're going to laugh at poor writing style, perhaps try starting with your own?

[MistressAthena]

Wow someone else with no experience of the endgame economy agrees with you, you must feel so validated right now.


I feel kind of dirty lowering myself to your level but that's funny coming from someone who doesn't understand how apostrophes, ellipses, quote marks, or capitalization work. Even funnier that Bizzybeast seems to have had the same difficulties, and that you're still referring to him in the third person. If you're going to laugh at poor writing style, perhaps try starting with your own?

Thank you.

[MentalPoison]

yes I typed Your instead of you're. I knew that already. Whether your his friend or not, the fact you feel the need to come in derail the subject, troll, and defend him on a point you think is useless, just shows you have some serious mental issues in a few categories.

Once is an accident, every single time is ignorance. You should already know which category you fall under.

You do not like people's opinions who differ from yours, especially when they use sources, facts, or logic. This entire thread you've mis-represented the current system, due to your lack of understanding of it and you continue to promote that FF11's blind auction is a "Far Superior System". Regardless of how many argue, rationally, against that bold statement. People have cited multiple problems and flaws, to which you brush aside and say "It has flaws, but its a vastly superior system!", like a politician stuck on stupid.

This system is heavily flawed, especially considering during FF11 simple keyboard macros could cycle through bids until you find the lowest. The whole reason you want this system is because pretending to be a girl isnt getting you loads of free stuff, the current market takes effort for it to pay off. You cannot cut it in this system because youre bad at it and seek to throw in an old system, with many flaws you even admit to, that needs an overhaul to even be remotely functional. Aint nobody got time for that.

Mental issues? "Mistress may refer to: Mistress (lover), a woman, other than the spouse, with whom a married individual has a continuing sexual relationship", and you cannot properly use You're and Your. So I would be more careful about throwing around labels bro.

I don't think blind auction is the way to fix it.

Damn that sucks, yet another person who wouldnt be considered a valid end game opinion, agrees with my side. Oh well.

[MistressAthena]

Once is an accident, every single time is ignorance. You should already know which category you fall under.

You do not like people's opinions who differ from yours, especially when they use sources, facts, or logic. This entire thread you've mis-represented the current system, due to your lack of understanding of it and you continue to promote that FF11's blind auction is a "Far Superior System". Regardless of how many argue, rationally, against that bold statement. People have cited multiple problems and flaws, to which you brush aside and say "It has flaws, but its a vastly superior system!", like a politician stuck on stupid.

This system is heavily flawed, especially considering during FF11 simple keyboard macros could cycle through bids until you find the lowest. The whole reason you want this system is because pretending to be a girl isnt getting you loads of free stuff, the current market takes effort for it to pay off. You cannot cut it in this system because youre bad at it and seek to throw in an old system, with many flaws you even admit to, that needs an overhaul to even be remotely functional. Aint nobody got time for that.

Mental issues? "Mistress may refer to: Mistress (lover), a woman, other than the spouse, with whom a married individual has a continuing sexual relationship", and you cannot properly use You're and Your. So I would be more careful about throwing around labels bro.



Damn that sucks, yet another person who wouldnt be considered a valid end game opinion, agrees with my side. Oh well.

Actually it's intentional. It's "Internet short hand" and simply me typing fast to get the point across. This isn't an exam, nor a paper for a sophisticated journal, nor a book, or anything on that level. I'm sorry you have nothing to argue with, and resort to pointing out my style of writing online. Words of wisdom, read and think about whats typed, not how its typed, as even wise or intelligent thoughts can come in the form of quick and sloppy responses.

If you refer to several pages before, I point out several times that disagreeing with me is more than ok, and it still is. Antagonizing me, flaming me, trolling me, and resorting to personal attacks is not ok with me. Do you understand the difference? I really don't think you do, as you disagree with me, then turn around and insult me, then claim I'm upset because your disagreeing with me. It's a troll mentality, and is honestly extremely childish. I'm sorry to say.

Yet again, you claim the system is heavily then use an example which weighs almost nothing in the argument. The keyboard macro command for that doesn't matter, as it doesn't effect the over all way the FF11 AH worked in any way. Yes I agree the FFXI AH system had a very few flaws, but its still loads better than the current system which has blatantly more flaws and problems.

Some people just don't like the FFXI AH, that's fine, perfectly. I like it. Some like Cheese, others don't. I'm fine, my reasons for liking it are not everyone's. Do you understand this concept as well? I don't think you really do on that point either based by the way your trying to argue.

As for the Mistress. Mistress in the English language has many forms, and meanings. Such As:

1) A woman in a position of authority, control, or ownership, as the head of a household:
2) A woman who owns or keeps an animal
3) A woman who owns a slave.
4) A woman with ultimate control over something
5) A woman who has mastered a skill or branch of learning
6) Mistress Used formerly as a courtesy title when speaking to or of a woman.
7) -Chiefly British- A woman schoolteacher

Sorry to break it to you, but your version of what "Mistress" stands for is the perverted version, and there are many many more meanings which are not.

But should we really go over names, when yours is "Mental Poison". Sounds like a troll name to me.

[Sinbios]

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Don't bother feeding the troll.

[MistressAthena]

Don't bother feeding the troll.

your right, my apologies.

[MentalPoison]

quick and sloppy responses.

Yes I agree the FFXI AH system had a very few flaws, but its still loads better than the current system which has blatantly more flaws and problems.

I refuse to keep playing into the drama queen trap, so ill deflect the rest of this mess of a post and simply ask WHY? You get explanations only to never mind them without a second thought.


Your idea to bring FF11s blind auction system into FF14, is under fire by your peers. The burden of proof is left to you and plenty of people have offered MANY of those "few flaws", which you just shrug off.

They are huge glaring issues with your idea, stand your ground and defend your point. Or yield your petition to implement a very flawed system that YOU claim is better then the current.

Your original examples stipulate the "chance" of getting a higher profit on your items, through a blind auction. You do not mention how this could just as easily work against someone, with the PROVEN volume of players playing the market.

You've failed to appropriately explain why your idea is a better one over the current, without resistance, of which you have just flamed in the absence of a sound argument. If you look through the thread it is nothing but you and some others yelling, insulting, and then saying "You dont understand!". Of course I would take on the When In Rome attitude when dabbling in this debauchery.

If you took a more conversational approach to this "debate", you would have seen a more willing discussion regarding the pros and cons of both your old system, rehashed I assume, and ways to realistically meld it with the current one.

[UnsayMoon]

Undercutting is voluntary. The visibility provides for the necessary supply and demand of a functioning economy. No change needed imo.

[ThinkPInk]

I think all items should have a minimum price that can't be adjusted. In that way crafters would at least have a chance to make back the money that was spent on the ingredients used to create the item. A system like this would help to stop undercutting because I don't think most people would sell items for the exact amount that they paid for their ingredients and this would also stop crafters from selling overpriced items.

[MentalPoison]

I think all items should have a minimum price that can't be adjusted. In that way crafters would at least have a chance to make back the money that was spent on the ingredients used to create the item. A system like this would help to stop undercutting because I don't think most people would sell items for the exact amount that they paid for their ingredients and this would also stop crafters from selling overpriced items.

I dont see how this could work. What would make your item sell before mine or vice versa? Would it be a queue, first one listed is first to sell?

Personally I think this would take a lot away from the entertainment of haggling for cheap materials and playing the market to profit.