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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Why does it always have to be convenience over fun?
    Are you saying that the current implementation of the market wards is fun? 'Cuz it's not.

    Playing the market is fun, buying and selling is fun, analyzing the system is fun, making profits is fun. It becomes not fun with a laggy, crashing, inconvenient mess like what we see now.

    In addition, to those people who find economic activity to be not fun regardless, the faster one can do it , the faster one can get back to doing other things he actually considers fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Are you saying that the current implementation of the market wards is fun? 'Cuz it's not.

    Playing the market is fun, buying and selling is fun, analyzing the system is fun, making profits is fun. It becomes not fun with a laggy, crashing, inconvenient mess like what we see now.

    In addition, to those people who find economic activity to be not fun regardless, the faster one can do it , the faster one can get back to doing other things he actually considers fun.
    Exactly, bring it to the streets so it's more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Why can't we have a thriving market economy like the one SE intended? Why does it always have to be convenience over fun? Why not just let the game do everything for you so you can fulfill your Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and Inner Nerd by getting to R50 the fastest? Why why why?
    SE's original market structure was unrealistic and placed too much faith in the players to carry out their little dream scenario where everyone interacts and bargains. They thought people would develop values for items in relation to others available in more face-to-face style interaction. Unfortunately for them, and apparently the people who want to play it that way, but the modern MMO market is catered more to get people where they want to be and do what they want to do, rather than make it an arduous build-up of mundane tasks beforehand.

    Exactly, bring it to the streets so it's more fun.
    This makes no sense in the context you've given it. The points you've quoted are all reasons that 'bringing it to the streets' is a bad idea.

    Pretty much can end the discussion here, it's not going to happen because of the server load as well as the inconvenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    SE's original market structure was unrealistic and placed too much faith in the players to carry out their little dream scenario where everyone interacts and bargains. They thought people would develop values for items in relation to others available in more face-to-face style interaction. Unfortunately for them, and apparently the people who want to play it that way, but the modern MMO market is catered more to get people where they want to be and do what they want to do, rather than make it an arduous build-up of mundane tasks beforehand.
    Hence why my suggestion comes with a search feature. It's a better alternative to the stale market wards that are claustrophobic and instanced and boring.

    Instances are boring. And so is an auction house. Get that boring crap out of my face.

    I don't care if they have an auction house anyway, but just let us have retainers in the streets too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Exactly, bring it to the streets so it's more fun.
    Obliusly you think rolamberry fields was fun. Well, it isn't. find something better.
    also, your post are really annoying, like a retarded version of i-know-everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    Obliusly you think rolamberry fields was fun. Well, it isn't. find something better.
    also, your post are really annoying, like a retarded version of i-know-everything
    Nice to meet you too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Nice to meet you too.
    You take such an aggressive stance and yet expect people to be nice?

    Instances are boring. And so is an auction house. Get that boring crap out of my face.
    I was honestly trying to ignore looking at the stupid crap you've been churning out today considering the fact we already had that little arguement in the thread concerning the job system. But seriously, you seem to be completely out of touch with what is a realistic, sensible, practical idea for the game and what you, the only person you think matters would like.

    Instances are coming in an even bigger way whether you personally like it or not, get used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Why can't we have a thriving market economy like the one SE intended? Why does it always have to be convenience over fun? Why not just let the game do everything for you so you can fulfill your Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and Inner Nerd by getting to R50 the fastest? Why why why?
    Ok first clam down troll 2# if you want to get max rank quick go play WoW, FFXIV may have become more easy then FFXI before the rise of the cap but at the end it about the challenge that the point of a Final Fantasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    You take such an aggressive stance and yet expect people to be nice?



    I was honestly trying to ignore looking at the stupid crap you've been churning out today considering the fact we already had that little arguement in the thread concerning the job system. But seriously, you seem to be completely out of touch with what is a realistic, sensible, practical idea for the game and what you, the only person you think matters would like.

    Instances are coming in an even bigger way whether you personally like it or not, get used to it.
    Well excuse me your majesty for not getting your permission before I started to make sense. I figured at least one of us around here should be. But obviously that's too much for you people to handle.

    Look at it like this, the market wards are boring. They are claustrophobic and you hate being in them. It takes forever to zone inbetween instances unless your computer is from the future and the whole thing reeks of a rush-job.

    If we could have retainers setting up shop in the street, not only would it instill life into the cities, it would also mean less zoning between isntances and also a more "immersive" and "realistic" economy. Instanced market wards are so lifeless.

    They bore me and they annoy me.

    I thought they would be right up your alley, considering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Ok first clam down troll 2# if you want to get max rank quick go play WoW, FFXIV may have become more easy then FFXI before the rise of the cap but at the end it about the challenge that the point of a Final Fantasy.
    Um, you do realise I was being sarcastic? I'm on your side.
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