Here's how people made millions in 1 month, my story.

[C-croft]

It's not that they don't want to, it's that realistically most people don't have the time. Grinding out end gamecontent consumes so much time that it leaves little for anything else. I don't know any MMO out there currently that doesn't at least cover your repair costs from running end game content within said content itself. This game unfortunately does not, well not yet.

Most other games also do not allow you to change classes on the fly. Grinding end game content is not even that hard. 8 AK runs and you are myth capped. You can get full DL while you are waiting for about 55 CM runs, but you aren't forced to do it right away. The option is there and open to people. Unless you are a progression FC and are racing for world/server first, you have the option to spend some time to make money. The fact that people choose not to and the fact that they loathe to work a little extra is not a server problem, it's a personal lifestyle problem. During those CMAK runs, spiritbonding materia is the way to go. On goblin battledance goes for 30k a piece, Amber gear is 2k-5k. I used two for my relic quest, but am selling one battledance and two savage mights for 32k and 16kx2 respectively. That's more than enough to carry my repair bill for a while. Also, you know what DoW/M can farm that crafters can't? Potash, coke, etc. Goblin avg price is 30k. After 5 CM runs, you could have 120k gil by selling to crafters. THAT is your upkeep money. Don't worry about the gil. If need be, a crafter can make their money through leves or by reselling on the market, but asking for more gil generation is really only asking for more inflation since they reduced the gil sinks.

[Sweeet]

Most other games also do not allow you to change classes on the fly. Grinding end game content is not even that hard. 8 AK runs and you are myth capped. You can get full DL while you are waiting for about 55 CM runs, but you aren't forced to do it right away. The option is there and open to people. Unless you are a progression FC and are racing for world/server first, you have the option to spend some time to make money. The fact that people choose not to and the fact that they loathe to work a little extra is not a server problem, it's a personal lifestyle problem. During those CMAK runs, spiritbonding materia is the way to go. On goblin battledance goes for 30k a piece, Amber gear is 2k-5k. I used two for my relic quest, but am selling one battledance and two savage mights for 32k and 16kx2 respectively. That's more than enough to carry my repair bill for a while. Also, you know what DoW/M can farm that crafters can't? Potash, coke, etc. Goblin avg price is 30k. After 5 CM runs, you could have 120k gil by selling to crafters. THAT is your upkeep money. Don't worry about the gil. If need be, a crafter can make their money through leves or by reselling on the market, but asking for more gil generation is really only asking for more inflation since they reduced the gil sinks.

Having enough to cover the cost of repairs from running the end game content itself is hardly asking for much. It's such a small deal MMO's have been doing it for years, because they know they also have to cater to those who may only have a couple of hours per night to invest.

I'm not saying make end game content a viable means to make Gil like your post suggests, I simply believe that they need to make running end game content a viable means of repairing your gear for those who have limited time to play. If they want other perks then yes by all means they should have to work for it.

[C-croft]

Having enough to cover the cost of repairs from running the end game content itself is hardly asking for much. It's such a small deal MMO's have been doing it for years, because they know they also have to cater to those who may only have a couple of hours per night to invest.

I'm not saying make end game content a viable means to make Gil like your post suggests, I simply believe that they need to make running end game content a viable means of repairing your gear for those who have limited time to play. If they want other perks then yes by all means they should have to work for it.

And I am saying that there is enough to supply you gil to cover your cost. If you have a limited time to play each night, your gear doesn't deteriorate any faster or slower. It's not fair that people don't get to play more often, and I wish everyone had more time in RL, so we can all enjoy things that really matter, but in reality, it's not how things work. It's a bummer, and I feel for people, I truly do, however, welfare is not going to help with ANY gil issues people may have. If they were to give you just enough to cover your repairs, why not remove degradation altogether at level 50.

EDIT: What about people that get to spend all day playing? Even if they add dailies (aka 6 leve quests), you realize they will now be required to do these on top of CM/AK or w/e they add tomes to. Dailies only increase the time sink.

Food for thought: 1 gil drops from trash mobs in AK is pretty insulting.

[Bibimbap]

If housing does end up costing exorbitant amounts of gil, it's just going to be yet another slap in the face at this point. I can understand "we took this away, you'll never need that much," but "we took this away even though it's nowhere close to what you need" would just be ridiculous.

[YuriRamona]

The problem is in RL if you are a merchant, hell even a consumer, you have ways to verify your "money" is valid and not counterfeit. There are generally errors on it and also we use bank debits cards and there are devices to detect fake money etc etc.

In game though there is NO WAY TO VERIFY if the purchaser is using fake/stolen etc money its a complete russian roulette game. It is therefore up to SE themselves to give us a way to make sure gil used in such transaction in the AH is "good" especially if they will hold us responsible and take the money we earn away at a later date.

I mean there's still rmt spamming and therefore I am sure still people buying gil so what is the point of trying make money other than by quests/levee if at some later date it will be taken from us?

Thank you for bringing reason and logic into this thread. People seem to insist that equipment was "overpriced" and "unfair", as if there were some lower price point where gil-buyers would throw up their hands and refuse to spend their money, and only legitimate players would make purchases.

[Vindrax]

I'm not saying make end game content a viable means to make Gil like your post suggests, I simply believe that they need to make running end game content a viable means of repairing your gear for those who have limited time to play. If they want other perks then yes by all means they should have to work for it.

If you read his post, you would see that it's entirely possible to make gil running end game content. Wear a single ring you can spirit bond and sell the materia and you can recoup probably over 100 runs worth of repairs depending on your server economy. Now granted I'm on a legacy server, so your mileage may vary, you may need to spirit bond two rings.

If you're somehow morally against spirit bonding, run outside and kill 25-50 boars and sell the leather they drop (or any other crafting material mob, fleece, snurble tufts etc...). That will give you enough gil to repair your gear for 3 months.

[Overon]

Now don't come at me saying 99% was corrupted, it's tottaly impossible, that would even include money from quests. SE screwed up hard, did no investigation at all and just took 99% gils off of lots of player. If we had been caught red handed, our account would have been banned.

If the people reading this have not played FF11 or been with SE for long than you are being misguided .......
First time offense for Botters , Gil Buyers , or Explioters is not a Ban.......... its is a Suspension and if Illegal Gil/Gear its taken......


For Gil Sellers , Hackers , and other RMT , its perma Ban

These Spam of threads of I am innocent .........its getting old .
It is also a break of TOS , which none of these "I am Innocent" thread makers seem to care about ! Which likely is about how much they cared about it when it put them in this position in the first place.

If you continue to break TOS eventually its the Perma Ban , so why continue ! Why not handle this between you and SE and move on or quit ?

[Overon]

Thank you for bringing reason and logic into this thread. People seem to insist that equipment was "overpriced" and "unfair", as if there were some lower price point where gil-buyers would throw up their hands and refuse to spend their money, and only legitimate players would make purchases.

Gil Sellers make money off a High Costing Economy , they themselves work to drive up the Cost .

RMT have been making Profits in this game or they would not be spamming it on almost every Popular map and to say otherwise would be ignoring facts and knowing what advertising is .......

I am no fool , its likely that the 500+ people who had their Gil Taken had one way or another Broken TOS when it came to gil .......
500 players is a minority in this game even if they all came from one server . But its a Believable number when it comes to say..........Gil Buyers and Exploiters

[KevinC]

If the people reading this have not played FF11 or been with SE for long than you are being misguided .......
First time offense for Botters , Gil Buyers , or Explioters is not a Ban.......... its is a Suspension and if Illegal Gil/Gear its taken......


For Gil Sellers , Hackers , and other RMT , its perma Ban

These Spam of threads of I am innocent .........its getting old .
It is also a break of TOS , which none of these "I am Innocent" thread makers seem to care about ! Which likely is about how much they cared about it when it put them in this position in the first place.

If you continue to break TOS eventually its the Perma Ban , so why continue ! Why not handle this between you and SE and move on or quit ?

Did you even bother to read my post on first page? Do you live under a rock or did SE brainwash you that much?

[Overon]

Did you even bother to read my post on first page? Do you live under a rock or did SE brainwash you that much?

Yes I read it , sorry I did not fall head over heals in support of it...........
No , I am not foolish to believe garbage nor am I stupid ..............

Square Enix = For Profit Company
They are not punishing innocent players because it makes them laugh as is it was a Giant Prank..........They are here to make money , they're for protecting their Product from being ruined by lazy players , they are punishing those who are hurting it by cheating.

Even then punishing the Cheaters hurts their Profit but its better than a Out of Control , Free for all Cheater Fest that will turn off the legit players who are the vast Majority.......

Brainwashed , no , I just understand how business works .
For Profit , is FOR PROFIT .
They are not punishing people FOR FUN...........