Here's how people made millions in 1 month, my story.

[Asmodeus]

You don't even need a boat load of gold in this game to do anything then again your cherished e-peen might have been cut down to a centimeter.

Your point? you don't need all that endgame gear either yet many do.. hmm guess "fun" is subjective, Hey I know what lets level the playing field and remove all items, from innocent people that had indirect contact with RMT.

Hah wouldn't that be funny if the gear you just got via grinding endgame dungeon was taken away because of rmt XYZ.

[ChriskoOnAnotherLevel]

Sure you had to pay a price, but bots and RMT are now 100% gone from the game. And only the rich had to pay the price, so really, what price was paid at all? Sounds like a perfect solution to me.

WTF kind of dream world do you live in? They have no efficient way of detecting bots and or RMT, which is why the large amounts of gil tactic was used in the first place.

Go level a DOL and you will see how removed they are from the game.

P.S. most of the botters have been spam reported for over 2 weeks, they are still there everyday all day regardless of time.

[KevinC]

The white knight are NEVER going to be sympathetic to your case. They will ALWAYS find some angle to rob you of any satisfaction.

There isn't a court of law. There isn't even a court of reason. You're telling a forum that would relish the sight of you drawn and quartered just for thinking SE could ever possibly do something incorrectly.

But in the end, you have a choice. Suck it up and remake your millions or wait until Skyrim Online comes out and try your luck there.

Sorry!

Masha

I'll take the later option.

I honestly think you should just give up on this game. There is no way you will get that money back given current market prices and who knows what SE will do next? Its a shame.

I already did, I just wish some players would chill out and support those who are still trying to figure this mess out. People need to ask themselves questions.

[Mistz]

It's getting sad watching this over and over, people with double standards & lies.
I will say it again, screenshot or it never happend, how come none of you "gil-buying" people havent cared to give the rest of us the the proof that will make all questions disapear.
- Screenshot of your AH logs -
Let us see those massive transactions you so honestly made, even you claim to have tradet most of it, i would assume you sold at least 50% of it on the AH, please understand nobody cares, i have alot of friends, includeing myself who had 8 million+ that didint get hit by this.
I'm finding it very hard to belive that it was only innocent honest players getting hit by this, and what is even more odd.
If you did read up on how meny people that actually got this rollback compared to players that play the game it makes queite good sense the low number matches gold buyers/suppliers, what makes even more sense is the gold prices jumpet 300% meaning the people behind RMT actually got hit.

People been crying for SE to hit RMT related players, cant blame them for doing there job.
Once you can prove otherwise i will gladly back you up against SE, but atm all people are doing who got hit by this is brining up the useall faity tail stories you can buy yourself to on most forums in order to clear your name.
If it was myself i would had tried to at least prove my innocense by posting some hot evidence i didint do anything wrong, wich i fail to see any of you guys do besides make up good stories.
That said you might be right you played the market honestly, and deep respect to it & i feel sorry you got hit for beeing smart, but it really just sounds so unlikely in my ears when so meny others with same amount of gil didint get banned.

[KevinC]

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So you're telling me that for the 6 days I was the only miner selling mats on the market that I should have took screenshot every 30 mins or so to prove what I'm saying? Waking up during night to take some more too? Just in case that a company would wrongfully suspend me and remove 99% of my gils even if I didn't do anything wrong (cause if I did, I would be banned)? Are you serious? Where is the text in the ToS that say I need to keep a log of my transaction in case they investigate me? Or is that your vision of how everyone should play mmos? You really think that the people that have been posting on the forums non stop for 2 weeks now claiming their innocence and asking a GM to really investigate their account (we had someone claiming he bought gils on the forum yesterday and yet he could still play, they didn't investigate jack shit) are just a bunch of idiots with too much time on their hands?

And what about you, where are your screenshot that you got 8 millions before september 27th?

[AlahnSiegrain]

Did pretty much the same on my server, day 3 or 4 MIN+ARM 50, so I controlled DS nugget trade. But instead of selling em for a price like yours (which is market 39k if I didnt do the math wrong), I sold em tiered, 5x17k, 3x20k, 1x30k each time(so most times at 17k). I didnt get banned since the total sum I made within my monopoly week was about 3,5m.

So yeah being too greedy can hurt ya! :3

[KevinC]

Did pretty much the same on my server, day 3 or 4 MIN+ARM 50, so I controlled DS nugget trade. But instead of selling em for a price like yours (which is market 39k if I didnt do the math wrong), I sold em tiered, 5x17k, 3x20k, 1x30k each time(so most times at 17k). I didnt get banned since the total sum I made within my monopoly week was about 3,5m.

So yeah being too greedy can hurt ya! :3

Well if you plan to buy both a FC and personal house, I highly doubt 10 millions is greedy. Expect the top houses to cost around 4 millions.

But then we should ban SE because expensives houses will make players wanna buy gils online right (not directed at you Alahn, just stating some crap white knights were saying about the crafters making other players buy gils because their items were at 1 mil)?

[C-croft]

Exactly, they are not being frivolous with their money, they have just been questing. Get them to 50 after running out of quests, then get them to start running end game content without doing anything else, they will soon start to see that 250k or whatever they have disappear.

Also I don't think people realised just how bad the Gil fountains were going to be in the first week, hence why so many didn't care that they were parting with so much money. In reality things are very different and people need to stop being exploited due to illegitimately inflated prices.

There is no problem with the gil generation in this game. There is a problem with personal wealth. As a DoW/M people should be spiritbonding to make materia, use their garbage leves, or farming mats for crafter resell. It becomes a problem when DoW/M state they don't want to do this or that they shouldn't have to, a personal problem. Crafter/Gatherers have access and ability to make over 500,000 gil every 17 weeks off leves.

[Sweeet]

There is no problem with the gil generation in this game. There is a problem with personal wealth. As a DoW/M people should be spiritbonding to make materia, use their garbage leves, or farming mats for crafter resell. It becomes a problem when DoW/M state they don't want to do this or that they shouldn't have to, a personal problem. Crafter/Gatherers have access and ability to make over 500,000 gil every 17 weeks off leves.

It's not that they don't want to, it's that realistically most people don't have the time. Grinding out end game content consumes so much time that it leaves little for anything else. I don't know any MMO out there currently that doesn't at least cover your repair costs from running end game content within said content itself. This game unfortunately does not, well not yet.

[AlahnSiegrain]

Well if you plan to buy both a FC and personal house, I highly doubt 10 millions is greedy. Expect the top houses to cost around 4 millions.

But then we should ban SE because expensives houses will make players wanna buy gils online right (not directed at you Alahn, just stating some crap white knights were saying about the crafters making other players buy gils because their items were at 1 mil)?

Well the problem with housing prices is legacy vs nonlegacy. If the prices are the same, they need to find a price that will be not too high for NL and
not too low for L, which makes balancing this a nightmare if prices are going to be the same for every server.

Even if the price will be ~4m for big house (tbh I expect it to be more), it should be considered a high sum since iirc Yoshi stated that farming for a large house will take LONG(iirc he said ~year) (and that will indeed send a lot of ppl to RMTs, so you do have a point there, but also think of it this way: is a 2star piece of gear worth 1/4th of a large house?).