Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Ryios]

If it has to do with netcode. How come I can stand in a plume and walk out and not get hit with 99.999999% success? I got hit 1 time the entire fight and that was phase 5 when I got boxed in between plumes and a bomb and I had to choose (eat 1 plume or eat the bomb, I chose the plume).

At first, during all the fail runs I agreed mostly with the statements in this thread, because everyone was getting hit but me. But after the group last night of all pcs and no one getting hit by plumes until phase 5, I don't think it has anything to do with netcode.

Ok maybe it could be more effecient, but if your latency is low enough, and your CPU is fast enough you can dodge crap just fine.

And for hardware not mattering.... Yes it does. You do realize that the network stack in windows is software processed right (e.g. it runs on your CPU). Stuff goes out your nic and comes in your nic, but get's processed on your CPU. So if the netcode is indeed bloated

(e.g.)...

100 MOB | TITAN | ABILITY | WEIGHT OF THE LAND | START TIMER
instead of
000000010000000001000000100000003000001

Then yeah, having a Faster CPU does matter, because a fast CPU Can parse crappy server responses faster than a crappy CPU can do it, thus you get out of stuff they can't.

[Sunarie]

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Yet another one of the people arguing the wrong thing. Yes, the fight is doable right now, but you can't rely on the on-screen indicators. Yes, you can move out of plumes, but if you aren't out by the last probably.. 1/4th to 1/8th of the cast bar then you will get hit regardless of if you're out when the cast actually finishes.

There is lag. Play the game side by side with someone and watch how long it takes to show an action you've done on their computer. Better yet, watch the cast bars of people in your party. Without fail it always looks like casts are interrupted (that's the whole lag thing). I've beat Titan, my FC is downing it regularly now. Just because it's possible doesn't mean there isn't an issue. People should be able to rely strictly on the indicators we're given in game.

This has been accepted in the bug forum, Yoshi himself has said that the server only checks your location every .3 seconds. Why do people keep denying it's a thing?

[reality_check]

Then yeah, having a Faster CPU does matter, because a fast CPU Can parse crappy server responses faster than a crappy CPU can do it, thus you get out of stuff they can't.

Okay let's pretend for one second that your statements about the server only updating your location every 0.3 seconds has to do with your CPU. So, you have an i5, your position is updated every 1.5 seconds. You have an i3, you're being updated once every 0.3 seconds.

Let's just pretend this is how it works.

How is this a smart game design at all?!

Edit: And for someone who plays on both a PS3 and an i7 computer, I can promise you the netcode lag is just as bad on both machines.

[Ryios]

Edit: And for someone who plays on both a PS3 and an i7 computer, I can promise you the netcode lag is just as bad on both machines.

Well, unless your a software engineer with a bachelor's degree in computer science like myself who custom built their Gaming PC, I can promise you that I don't lag on Titan unless there's a server lag spike that everyone gets, which doesn't always happen when I run titan.

I will agree that there is a small .3 ish lag on moving around, but other than that there is no issue. And my crap runs so well and so smoothly that the .3 doesn't really matter to me, I get out fine. An I'm running windows 8 with the game in windowed mode which means I have to deal with Always On Vertical Sync.

Again I'm not denying for a minute that the server code could get improved, but improved or not, people who's pc's are not optimized and tuned and lag will still get hit. And having an i7 doesn't mean anything really. What I7, it's unlocked (K on the name) with it overclocked to 4.8ghz? Or is it one of the 2011 8 core pos's with 2.3ghz per core. I7 doesn't mean it's better than an I5, etc etc, tons of variables I could write a book on, like games and threading and how games don't use HT so i7's HT functionality is useless.

There are 3 ways a system bottlenecks, CPU, GPU, and HDD. You can have the best CPU in the WHOLE WORLD, and still lag if your GPU is crap. You can have the best GPU and CPU in the whole world and still lag if your hdd is 5400 rpm's on the IDE interface and slow and the game isn't preloading/caching textures. And you can have the best overall PC in the world and still lag if your ISP has ISP Side Packet optimization/buffering/traffic filtering etc, or your on Dial Up, or your on Satellite internet, etc etc.

[traja]

Again I'm not denying for a minute that the server code could get improved, but improved or not, people who's pc's are not optimized and tuned and lag will still get hit.

If anything that makes this even worse. People with low end machines get completely ruined then because it's just one problem on top of another. But honestly I have never seen this issue in other MMOs (didn't play FFXI), and I have played them with some truly abysmal PCs. But now that I have a i7-3770K and I am seeing it all the time in FFXIV, but of course, still not in any other MMO. So from that I think the CPU effect while possible is miniscule compared to the terrible net code.

[Silverwalk]

Well, unless your a software engineer with a bachelor's degree in computer science like myself who custom built their Gaming PC, I can promise you that I don't lag on Titan unless there's a server lag spike that everyone gets, which doesn't always happen when I run titan.

I will agree that there is a small .3 ish lag on moving around, but other than that there is no issue. And my crap runs so well and so smoothly that the .3 doesn't really matter to me, I get out fine. An I'm running windows 8 with the game in windowed mode which means I have to deal with Always On Vertical Sync.

Could you run a test please.

Using fraps or something similar get someone to autofollow you.

Swing the camera view around so you are looking behind you at the person autofollowing and start fraps.

Now start running. Keep running for at least 5 seconds. Now stop and wait for the person autofollowing to catch up.

Upload the video of that so we can see how your PC solves the server lag.

It would help if we had proof that it's our PC's and spending money on a new rig can gives us a smooth gameplay experience as you claim.

[reality_check]

And having an i7 doesn't mean anything really. What I7, it's unlocked (K on the name) with it overclocked to 4.8ghz? Or is it one of the 2011 8 core pos's with 2.3ghz per core. I7 doesn't mean it's better than an I5, etc etc, tons of variables I could write a book on, like games and threading and how games don't use HT so i7's HT functionality is useless.

You said: good computers make the lag less noticeable.

I said: I have a good computer and a PS3 and the netcode lag is the exact same.

What are you even trying to argue here? Certain generation i7s aren't good enough to avoid the netcode lag on ffxiv? Seriously... this isn't a hardware issue this is a netcode issue.