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  1. #101
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    Belandomolando's Avatar
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    Bastienoix Charlemont
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    Did you really understand my point?

    I mean... I basically just said that this game keeps me occupied for 32 hours a week, which I'm pretty sure was a gross overestimate given what I currently do in game, fyi... 32 hours out of 168. Feel free to make assumptions about my social life if you like though........
    168 ... mmm lets take out the weekends eh? 120 - 40 if you have a normal job, 80 and we'll do a low 6 hrs of sleep each day, so 50 hrs, 10 hrs each day, I don't know your commute, how your lunch break works, when you get home, leave for work, cook, clean, and how that's divided out.

    You're the one who proposed what you could better do with your time.

    Overall I do agree they need to adjust something though.

    I hate grinding period though .
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  2. #102
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    Sotek's Avatar
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    Sefiria Satara
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Don't just play end-game. -.- End-game as of right now is only 10% of the game. If you focus solely on that, of course you'll get burnt out. In a patch or 2 End-game should serve more of a purpose. 1.23 did it kinda ( and that was with a bad launch). 2.0 is an alright launch could be better. However, this time around they don't have to fix battle systems and the crappy servers etc. ( they don't just have levequests lol, that was funny when I saw 1.0 that was the only "content" >.<).

    Edit: If you are a 1.0 player and have most or all 50's then, I do suggest you either make a new character or wait 1-2 patches before coming back.
    What is the other 90% of the game? Crafting and Gathering? Both boring and fairly pointless since Gil has no real value in this game, 2.1 adds housing which will be great, but it is FC housing which I am by no means going to pay for solely. Leveling other jobs? What, so I can't gear them at endgame? Honestly, if I'm only playing 10% of the game, please do inform me of what the other 90% is.

    Quote Originally Posted by MomoOG View Post
    Thats cause you already played 10 hours a day to get to the point where all you need to do is run AK once a day.
    Sure thing, I had zero pieces of Dorklight before today, well known for that in my ingame social circles in fact, what can I say, Healers really don't need any gear at all. Clearly I've been playing non-stop before now.... I only even decided to actually focus on Philosophy because I am that bored. Kind of disappointed I can only carry one Radz-at-Han since I intended to get enough for all Relics before bothering with any Dorklight.
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    Last edited by Sotek; 10-11-2013 at 01:44 AM.

  3. #103
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    Stryker's Avatar
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    Roy Hildenbrand
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    What is the other 90% of the game? Crafting and Gathering? Both boring and fairly pointless since Gil has no real value in this game, 2.1 adds housing which will be great, but it is FC housing which I am by no means going to pay for solely. Leveling other jobs? What, so I can't gear them at endgame? Honestly, if I'm only playing 10% of the game, please do inform me of what the other 90% is.
    Yup I totally agree. Especially when the devs say they wanted everyone to blow through 1-49 to get to 50 and start the "real game". Which would indicate the end game is exactly what the devs wanted everyone to be at. So that 90% prior to end game must have been so good and fast that when I blinked I blew past it.
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  4. #104
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    Meleena's Avatar
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    Meleena Steelheart
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 74
    On topic - caps should be removed. And to all those saying "But then you'll end the game in 1 month!", my reply is, then make more content?
    Content will come.
    There is enough content already actually, FFXIV is one of the games with the most content I have seen on launch.
    But you know... people want the content to be easy and fast and non stop, thatings that cannot and will not be done.
    So either find something to do in game or you just find some other game to play in the mean time and stop playing 24/7.

    But for some of us there really is not that many things to do.
    Some of us have all jobs caped and multiple relics. The cap is somewhat frustrating and only put there because the overall lack of content.
    I have been saying since the beta
    SE should wait a few more months to prepare more content before release or they would place some system like this in place.
    System is fine and needed, level your chocobo to max.
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  5. #105
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    Vicas Windwalker
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post

    Sure thing, I had zero pieces of Dorklight before today, well known for that in my ingame social circles in fact, what can I say, Healers really don't need any gear at all. Clearly I've been playing non-stop before now.... I only even decided to actually focus on Philosophy because I am that bored. Kind of disappointed I can only carry one Radz-at-Han since I intended to get enough for all Relics before bothering with any Dorklight.
    Okay so we found your problem. Apprently you just want to circumvent the natural progression of the game and skip DL and go straight to mythology items. Sorry thats not how it works. Looks like you have plenty of reason to log in to get your full DL but you just think you are too good for it.
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    Last edited by MomoOG; 10-11-2013 at 02:08 AM.

  6. #106
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    Meleena's Avatar
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    Meleena Steelheart
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 74
    Okay so we found your problem. Apprently you just want to circumvent the natural progression of the game and skip DL and go straight to mythology items. Sorry thats not how it works. Looks like you have plenty of reason to log in to get your full DL but you just think your to good for it.
    I agree with you.
    I have also replied in my previous posts that Mythology is not the only end game gear in ARR
    But people ignore allagan, darklight and craftable 2 stars gear because they want everything to be the easy (let me get it right now) way.
    SOrry but MMOS dont work like that and as I always say to them, "Learn to play".
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  7. #107
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    Jayded Phoenixfire
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Steeled View Post
    See, I don't understand one thing about this line of thought.

    I'd love to have myth limits removed, but it won't help the burnout I'm feeling. In fact, it would only make it worse. AK stops being fun around the third time you've done it and I've done it over 100 times probably.

    Removing myth caps just gives me reason to do the instance more, how does that help burnout?
    For me the burnout is coming because I log in and cap out my myth stones and then don't log in again for the week. I feel no connection with my character due to the massive gaps in playtime 5-6 days, and can hardly justify maintaining a sub when only playing 4 days a month for a few hours. There's no connection to your character or to the game when you are forced into playing it so casually (for me).
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  8. #108
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    Sefiria Satara
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MomoOG View Post
    Okay so we found your problem. Apprently you just want to circumvent the natural progression of the game and skip DL and go straight to mythology items. Sorry thats not how it works. Looks like you have plenty of reason to log in to get your full DL but you just think you are too good for it.
    It is cute that you think healers need Dorklight, that extra Mind does phenomenally little. I guess all the people doing Coil in Dorklight instead of the iLv80 gear from Crystal Tower just think they're too good as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meleena View Post
    If the extra mind does nothing then you dont need mythology caps removed, go and do coil in darklight.
    I did Coil in Strategos. At the split of turn 1s boss, my tank did fine, the other healer (full Dorklight) did not so well. Now I'm waiting on my FC instead of pathetic shout groups.

    Strategos to AF2/Heroes is a significant upgrade, Strategos to Dorklight is not. Plus, you know, AF2 is AF2. I kind of want it based on that alone...
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    Last edited by Sotek; 10-11-2013 at 02:16 AM.

  9. #109
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    Meleena's Avatar
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    Meleena Steelheart
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 74
    I feel no connection with my character due to the massive gaps in playtime 5-6 days, and can hardly justify maintaining a sub when only playing 4 days a month for a few hours.
    Level the rest of your classes, see the story behind them.

    It is cute that you think healers need Dorklight, that extra Mind does phenomenally little. I guess all the people doing Coil in Dorklight instead of the iLv80 gear just think they're too good as well?
    If the extra mind does nothing then you dont need mythology caps removed, go and do coil in darklight.
    Or you can learn how to play and maybe get craftable gear that are better than darklight witch take time to get and will keep you busy

    I did Coil in Strategos. At the split of turn 1s boss, my tank did fine, the other healer (full Dorklight) did not so well. Now I'm waiting on my FC instead of pathetic shout groups.

    Strategos to AF2/Heroes is a significant upgrade, Strategos to Dorklight is not. Plus, you know, AF2 is AF2. I kind of want it based on that alone...
    Which enforces my point that AK gear is relevant end game gear.
    You will get your AF2..... in time... you know like an MMO.
    Untill then, craft your i70 gear and put materia on them, they are better than dorklight.

    Myth cap removal is still not needed.
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    Last edited by Meleena; 10-11-2013 at 02:21 AM.

  10. #110
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Honestly, if I'm only playing 10% of the game, please do inform me of what the other 90% is.
    Yes the other content is revolved around leveling your other classes. 1-49 is the part that gets you to end-game ( cap). Without content ( and yes even in 1.0 grinding off of mobs is content, just some view that differently), you wouldn't even be able to get to 50.

    In 2.0, you have a variety of different ways to level up ( Fast or Slow) it doesn't matter they're still a way to level up other than FATES:

    1) Guildhest
    2) FATEs ( which in my opinion if people don't like it they shouldn't be doing it because it's the fastest, a game is meant to have fun, not to be takin' like a job)
    3) Levequest
    4) Hunting Log
    5) Sidequests ( read them as well some of them are kinda funny to me XD)
    6) Dungeons
    7) Actual grinding, it is there and sometimes can be just AS good as FATEs ( Japanese Team got 1-50 that way)

    I just don't understand it, If there's no end-game then play another class you think is fun and Mix up the content above. Just doing FATEs and getting to 50 as fast as possible will only making your boredom worse. Anyone can do what they like, I'm merely giving advise.

    The leveling up content is there ( some areas need tweaks for sure), and I understand there's not much end-game. So while you wait for 2.1/2.2, You can do other classes you may want, or level up the 2 classes that is conjunction with your main job, to take skills from.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 10-11-2013 at 02:17 AM.

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