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    Cairdeas's Avatar
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    Julie Nymphiel
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLotus View Post
    You have to take your notion that the weapon and the weapon user are the exact same thing out of the equation to understand what he means.

    Can't explain it to you until you see where we're coming from. Until then explaining it to you is a lost cause.
    Again. Once I learn the specialization. I've learned it why can't I use it on another weapon? The core tenates of the armoury system as it was given to us was "Use weapons, Learn skills, Build a Character off what you have learned."

    So I learned how to tank (Paladin) by leveling Gladiator. Why can't I take what I learned and use it with a Lance/Lancer?

    Why do I suddenly forget everything about tanking just because I changed weapons?


    Class/Weapon Specific Skills make sense to block for cross classing. A Lancer obviously can't be shot with a bow and split into a million parts in mid air clattering to the ground and destroying everything they touch.

    But all the Jobs are are Specialized roles for combat, I see no reason why they should be limited to class after you have learned and mastered them.
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    Last edited by Cairdeas; 05-20-2011 at 11:24 AM.
    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Blood Lotus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Again. Once I learn the specialization. I've learned it why can't I use it on another weapon? The core tenates of the armoury system as it was given to us was "Use weapons, Learn skills, Build a Character off what you have learned."

    So I learned how to tank (Paladin) by leveling Gladiator. Why can't I take what I learned and use it with a Lance/Lancer?

    Why do I suddenly forget everything about tanking just because I changed weapons?
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLotus View Post
    You have to take your notion that the weapon and the weapon user are the exact same thing out of the equation to understand what he means.

    Can't explain it to you until you see where we're coming from. Until then explaining it to you is a lost cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Again. Once I learn the specialization. I've learned it why can't I use it on another weapon? The core tenates of the armoury system as it was given to us was "Use weapons, Learn skills, Build a Character off what you have learned."

    So I learned how to tank (Paladin) by leveling Gladiator. Why can't I take what I learned and use it with a Lance/Lancer?

    Why do I suddenly forget everything about tanking just because I changed weapons?

    Actually when you think about it Gladiator (sword) isn't a tank it only becomes one when you combine it with Sentinel (shield)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    Actually when you think about it Gladiator (sword) isn't a tank it only becomes one when you combine it with Sentinel (shield)
    Thats not the point I was trying to make.

    You could take it as any task.

    We use the current classes to teach us skills. The ones that are easily transferable and have no difficulty in being shared are cross class usable. So Why is that Jobs which are essentially a Skill taught by Classes, can't be Cross Classed?

    Its not the same excuse used for some of the Archers Weapon Skills, or for the Pugilist Weapon Skills where the only possible way to execute the skill itself is to be using the weapon that teaches it.

    Once you know how to perform a basic task you shouldn't forget it because you changed classes. That was the whole reason for the Armoury system.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    Actually when you think about it Gladiator (sword) isn't a tank it only becomes one when you combine it with Sentinel (shield)
    A gladiator without a shield is viewed as a stupid gladiator tho...

    However, it would be interesting if sentinel rank was used to unlock paladin.
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