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  1. #11
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    ValVae's Avatar
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    Khal Amari
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    I thought there was an auto-translate type thing in-game already? If you type "he" and hit tab it usually shows {Hello!} and can be read in multiple languages as such.

    You may just be using Google Translate for fuller message but I just thought I should mention it in case it wasn't known.
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  2. #12
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    Rite Neow
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    Leatherworker Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ValVae View Post
    I thought there was an auto-translate type thing in-game already? If you type "he" and hit tab it usually shows {Hello!} and can be read in multiple languages as such.

    You may just be using Google Translate for fuller message but I just thought I should mention it in case it wasn't known.
    Yes, it's there. We use Google Translate for everything the Auto-Translate does not cover...which, unfortunately, is way too much. It should have every monster name, for instance.
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  3. #13
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    Shiloh Everlost
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    Marauder Lv 85
    I won't be doing this primarily because I actually like to converse with people while performing a dungeon run. To joke and chatter while we spend the next half an hour or so of our time together.

    It's really sad how few people will actually talk while in a dungeon. I'm not at the end-game ones yet, but even as a tank during trash with the length of the GCD I have enough time to shoot out a comment while playing. Talking builds community and all of that, and Iwouldn't want to be rude to someone and not talk because I don't know their language and queued up in their duty finder because I was impatient.

    If I wanted to just run through a dungeon with suboptimal, silent bots I'd go play Final Fantasy XIII.
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  4. #14
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    Owen Villania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanga View Post
    snip (sorry, just too long for full quote)
    I am actually very happy for you, that you got very good experience playing with JP ppl.
    However, I just want to remind you not everyone there is like that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nanga View Post
    You're using a 1-page thread (which by reading all the responses, is NOT supported by everyone who responded) is hardly very credible evidence to suggest the ENTIRE Japanese community feels the same way as the extremely tiny minority who apparently posted that message.
    Actually, I do see almost all the ppl replying are agreeing with putting stricter rules. (Maybe you have better understanding of Japanese than me. in that case, please point out which ones are "NOT support"ing)
    Which is, again, somewhat sad for me because I am not of Japanese origin myself.
    As to the part about thread being short, JP forum tends to use "Like!"s (as agreeing) instead of actually replying same/similar thing over and over again (ofcourse, there are times when ppl do that too) so what you need to count is not actually the page numbers, but the "Like"s on each reply.
    (In that sense, I would NOT think 68 as a SMALL number)


    From my personal experience, I had a few problems myself with DF in different languages.
    The most serious one being a English speaking person in a JP group, was trying to assure the group he knows how to do this, but the group DID NOT understand that "statement" he made.
    I kinda do the translation when things like such happens, but...NOT every group will have someone who knows both languages ofcourse.



    In Short: It's your freedom to do it. but keep in mind people COULD be hating you.
    I love to see people from different culture working together, but just raising "another view" on this issue.
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    タンクとは、敵の攻撃に耐え忍ぶ者なり。
    ‥‥あれ、それって忍者じゃね?

    I speak both English and Japanese.
    sometimes does translations in dungeons too...
    However, please try to not use Duty Finder with a language you don't know, because not everyone understands English.

  5. #15
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    Nanga's Avatar
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    Rite Neow
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    Adamantoise
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    Actually, I do see almost all the ppl replying are agreeing with putting stricter rules. (Maybe you have better understanding of Japanese than me. in that case, please point out which ones are "NOT support"ing)
    I said, "Is not supported by everyone." This means, "Of the *9* people who responded to the thread, not *ALL 9* of them were in support of it. Only some of them. Heck, maybe even 8 of them could be said to partially agree, but then some of them also said it doesn't matter if it's a duty that everyone is very familiar with anyways."

    But this was just a mere aside to the fact that we were talking about a thread that only got 9 responses, from someone asking for better Duty Finder restrictions based on language. If a thread of that type only gets 9 responses, not only is this indicative that the topic is hardly an important one to the gigantic majority of JP players, but of the majority of people who even read the forums, ONLY *9* people responded. Nine. That's 1 less than 10, and 1 more than 8. I think this speaks for itself: The JP's really don't care one way or the other; they're more friendly than the NA/EU crowd, and far more welcoming.
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  6. #16
    Player Whippet's Avatar
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    How to get faster groups in DF?

    DONT USE DF
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  7. #17
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caraway View Post
    I won't be doing this primarily because I actually like to converse with people while performing a dungeon run. To joke and chatter while we spend the next half an hour or so of our time together.
    You can make small talk in between mini boss battle, and boss, but overall the game is very fast pace and you gotta move a lot so it's too hectic to make small talk while trying to avoid monsters deadly moves.
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  8. #18
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    At level 50 it doesn't matter anyways. You will want to Run CM or Ak and every time you will get "Reserving Instance" even though your group is formed and ready. You wait no matter what in that case.
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  9. #19
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    Dochas Dia
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by O_Villania View Post
    As to the part about thread being short, JP forum tends to use "Like!"s (as agreeing) instead of actually replying same/similar thing over and over again (ofcourse, there are times when ppl do that too) so what you need to count is not actually the page numbers, but the "Like"s on each reply.
    (In that sense, I would NOT think 68 as a SMALL number)
    Wait so 9 replies and 68 likes out of the entire JP forum base is a large number to you? You really don't have much of a grasp of scale do you?

    I've done a few dungeons with everyone else in the group being JP. Sure there wasn't much chit chat, and it was obviously a first time for us as we were kind of wandering around trying to figure out where to go next, but everything went smoothly.

    Auto + Google can cover most of what you need. And JP people may get angry or "be hating you" but they don't spam chat with a bunch of trash if/when it happens like the English speakers.
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  10. #20
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    Milmoko_Gemoko's Avatar
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    Milmoko Gemoko
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    I've been using the all world/language groups since my first DF mission
    Also I've suggested this exact same thing in other threads where people have been moaning about long waits in the DF lol.

    EDIT: usually end up playing with JP players and other Europeans (non-Brits)
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