Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Dhex]

They're trying to sweep it under the rug, because it's something that can heavily affects sales and subscriptions.


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Like that is gonna happen.

FFXIV 1.0 & FFXI (11 years old!) both seemed to suffer from this netcode/structural issue - FFXIV ARR seems to be no different in regards to latency Client -> Server relationship. Since someone has already figured out how to dupe the checks (teleport hacking) going on between the Client -> Server I wonder why they don't move the priority to client side data a.k.a make the server back check your position against the recorded position of the monster without trying to actively reconcile position data server-side.

How this works:

Sever's apparent current method for checking position; Note this is active and relies on packets being sent to the server successfully*

Dhex - Space #1 @ 00:00:000
Dhex - Space #2 @ 00:00:300
Titan AOE Casting Appears - Space #2 @ 00:00:400
Dhex - Dodge - moves back to Space #1 @00:00:400
Titan AOE Animation @ 00:00:500
Dhex - Damage Calculated @ 00:00:550
Dhex - Position updated - Space #1 @ 00:00:600

vs.

Back checking Client position data via time stamp;

Dhex - Space #1 @ 00:00:000
Dhex - Space #2 @ 00:00:300
Titan AOE Casting Appears - Space #2 @ 00:00:400
Dhex - Dodge - moves back to Space #1 @00:00:400
Titan AOE Animation @ 00:00:500
Server check Client side data back log: Dhex in Space #1 @ :400
No damage calculated/applied to Dhex @ 00:00:550


How teleport hacking works:

Currently you'd need to inject packets with "false" position data for the server to read - by giving the server false information about your current position it makes it so that when the server next updates it will position you where it "thinks" you should be - rather than where you really ought to be.

Client side positional data can be found and modified but that's a problem for developers to work around if they go that route...

[traja]

This is a very serious issue but it is also a very old one in this game. Based on that I would guess that they are either unable or unwilling to fix it. Admitting this would be a serious PR mistake so they just keep quiet. Another possibility is that they are trying to fix it and don't want to get players hopes up yet. Personally I think the latter is becoming less likely the more time passes, and plenty has passed already.

[Randalthor]

This is a very serious issue but it is also a very old one in this game. Based on that I would guess that they are either unable or unwilling to fix it. Admitting this would be a serious PR mistake so they just keep quiet. Another possibility is that they are trying to fix it and don't want to get players hopes up yet. Personally I think the latter is becoming less likely the more time passes, and plenty has passed already.

A non generic response detailing how they are going to address this would be nice. I am hoping that a fix to this comes in the next patch.

[Babydoll]

Posting in here once a day as usual for a response! ^_^

[Syah]

SE DO YOU HEAR US???

85 pages and not a word from SE. Amazing. Vanity slots are more important so it seems...

Unbelievable.

[Gamina]

A non generic response detailing how they are going to address this would be nice. I am hoping that a fix to this comes in the next patch.

At this point even any kind of response would be nice! Whether it is "we are fixing" or just an acknowledgement that they are paying attention to anything we are saying. Seems all they have time for is gimmicks.

[Fuz]

Vanity slots are more important so it seems...

Also, Miqo'te butts.

[gigi_frana]

daily bump yo.

[Asmodeus]

So still no response from SE?

[HealBus]

The fight is no where as hard as heroic mimiron, LK, or Yogg. All of its supposed difficulty comes from poor netcode and I haven't failed a mechanic since knowing his patterns. And please don't try to act elitist about beating this, people who are killing turn 4 coil are reporting the same thing so the elitism is laughable and pathetic.