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  1. #741
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    vincent1's Avatar
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    Lohengrin Atharok
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    Zalera
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    about elephant in the room

    heya all,

    I am having this same problem too. I am at a very low level, but even in the first few dungeons and questing in the world I kept getting hit by aoe and I was way outside of the red circle. so now at least I understand why.
    I wanted to point something out. I think (correct me if necessary) that the elephant relates to an American style joke (I am American). if there is a HUGE problem and everybody ignores it we kind of say, 'it is like the elephant in the room'. because everybody will know if there is an elephant in the room, and they can try to ignore it all they can, but it is very obvious.
    in a similar way, as I think the elephant joke person was trying to point out, SE can try to ignore this problem all they want, but it is huge and game breaking. aoe damage stuff is an integral part of the current game, and not being able to dodge it because of poor game coding/design is gonna drive people away.
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  2. #742
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    Drekthalon's Avatar
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    Joren Valtin
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by vincent1 View Post
    heya all,

    I am having this same problem too. I am at a very low level, but even in the first few dungeons and questing in the world I kept getting hit by aoe and I was way outside of the red circle. so now at least I understand why.
    I wanted to point something out. I think (correct me if necessary) that the elephant relates to an American style joke (I am American). if there is a HUGE problem and everybody ignores it we kind of say, 'it is like the elephant in the room'. because everybody will know if there is an elephant in the room, and they can try to ignore it all they can, but it is very obvious.
    in a similar way, as I think the elephant joke person was trying to point out, SE can try to ignore this problem all they want, but it is huge and game breaking. aoe damage stuff is an integral part of the current game, and not being able to dodge it because of poor game coding/design is gonna drive people away.
    That's exactly right. I love this game and I would love to stay here and play for the 10 year lifespan Yoshida wants to have for it. However, this issue is, as you said, very obvious and very game breaking. I hope the right people (not moderators) actually read this and take a hard look at what's going on and how this can really hurt them in the long run.
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  3. #743
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    Unruhe's Avatar
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    Unruhe Endlos
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    Wait, so did they actually unlock this thread? Awesome. Too bad they make zero mention of this being a problem, let alone any intent to fix it.
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    Last edited by Unruhe; 10-04-2013 at 01:54 PM.

  4. #744
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    Star Breeze
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalandros View Post
    Hmm.
    I've no issues with dodging out of AoEs - usually have more than enough time to get out of titan's puddles (Weights) and linepunch.
    No problem doing all of Coil either.

    Some people might want to look into the TCP Lag Fix for MMOs that fixes the Windows registry for TCP usage - it might not fix everything but it will help on YOUR end to fix what YOUR windows isn't doing right for a TCP MMO.
    Out of curiosity, where are you located in relation to the servers and what is your ping time to them? What speed is your up/down? Do you have a link for 'TCP lag fix' i'm not well versed in it and is there some software you would recommend? Maybe a guide? I guess SE should have included this stuff in the instruction manual ><;

    I did try pingzapper and it made no difference. I have a ping of around 85-95ms from London, UK to Ragnarok. I'm on fibre optic. Unlimited 76/19.
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    Last edited by Namko; 10-04-2013 at 07:31 PM.

  5. #745
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    Sia Valariel
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    Ragnarok
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    Dear Yoshi-P, dear Devs, dear SE,

    Could you please take a bit of your time and respond to your community with regards to the delay in server response re: positioning (i.e. we see ourselves outside of the AOE but are still hit by it):

    - is it working as designed?
    - is it a known issue and SE is working on it? If yes, by when do you expect a resolution?

    75 pages of simples questions requiring simple answers. Please do not leave us in the unknown any longer.

    Syah
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  6. #746
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    rofl, that thread lock was funny telling people to post in the website feedback section
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  7. #747
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodeus View Post
    I hope yourself and other staff members take the time to reread some of this thread and realize this is not really about endgame but more about the AOE lagg. It is about the 300ms positioning lagg that occurs which is more noticeable at endgame.

    While this affects endgame more than any other area of gameplay the issue is more about the positioning checks the servers does and the long long (300ms) delay between them.
    the race conditions are absurd too, an example is when you heal yourself for more than the next damage you take but still die, i suspect this has a much more impact on gameplay than the 300ms pos update interval
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  8. #748
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    someone need to start a petition to remove Titan from the game.
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  9. #749
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    Schala Zeal
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    Leviathan
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    "They unlock the post, then say "oh sorry, we're happy to let you continue discussing end-game", when this post wasn't about end-game at all"

    Having the right topic title might have helped.

    If I say I'm going to discuss flowers (topic title: flowers), and I only discuss one particular flower's ecosystem, well maybe someone will think the topic is still flowers generally, not just THAT flower. Endgame is more than just avoiding aoes, and more than just Titan HM, for example.
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  10. #750
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    Miner Lv 50
    Don't you think mods should actually read the topic before locking it?
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    Last edited by complexxL9; 10-05-2013 at 01:00 AM.

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