Don't Tell Others How to Play Their Jobs

[KujinRen]

I was using Ruin II + Energy Drain, and he thought I should be using Ruin I + Fester because he thought it did more damage.

Ruin I (2.45 cast time + 2.45 recast, 80 potency) + Fester (300 max potency)
You can cast 9 Ruins and 3 Festers every 60 seconds: (9 * 80) + (3 * 300) = 1620 total potency damage per 60 seconds.

Ruin II (instant + 2.45 recast, 80 potency) + Energy Drain (150 potency)
You can cast 21 Ruin IIs and 3 Energy Drains every 60 seconds: (21 * 80) + (3 * 150) = 2130 total potency damage per 60 seconds.

A difference of 510 potency, or 32% more damage. This is not an insignificant amount.

So please, just let players play how they want. Just because they're not following the norm, doesn't mean they're bad players.

Unfortunately, your math is incorrect. I do, however, appreciate that you at least tried to give an explanation for your method. Listen to what the majority of this community is telling you. You can keep doing it your way; no one can stop you but you're just lowering your own damage output and therefore shouldn't consider progression beyond Ifrit HM unless you learn to use a proper rotation. Just being real, man.

[Freakiie]

So OP got to 50 and never realised CDs start the moment you start casting rather than the moment you finish casting.

Welp, I'm out.

[Dhex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0

[ispano]

Actually the tooltip says "Increases the potency of auto-attacks by 50." That is all Sword Oath does.

I know what it says, and I'm basically telling him the same thing. It boosts your auto attack damage, and not by much. When you use it, it actually gives you two damage numbers per hit instead of 1. The second being smaller than the first. And the first being the same as without Sword Oath.

[SKOOBY]

REPLY TO GUNGAN- THATS WHAT I SAID- YOUR ATTACK IS MORE,AS IT SHOULD BE, WHEN I DO A FIELD TEST ITS NOT "HALF ASSED"LIKE SOME MAY THINK- TO DO A PROPER FIELD TEST THEN ALL HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, INCLUDING DUNGEONS-AND EVEN THAT DOESNT MEAN I DONT LISTEN TO OTHERS.

THE FIRST THING I DO IN DUNGEON IS ASK FOR ADVICE-BUT;I AM A FREE AMERICAN- I'LL BE DAMNED IF I'LL BE PUSHED AROUND BY PUSHY PUNKS.AND THATS THE EXACT REASON THE CAPS ARE STILL ON.....

[Stryker]

We are the best DD's in the game by far. We have uh that skill that uh does that kinda damage that uh does some good stuff.

But back to the OP. If you can't entertain or even see what other people are saying when they give you advice it shows that you're most likely a very narrow minded person. Which is probably fine for you. You probably do the same thing every single time because you know you get x result and never play with the idea of improving.

There's nothing wrong with being mediocre. By definition that's what most people are. If everyone was above average then by definition that would be the new average. I don't think you should rage because someone gave you some advice. Take it readily with a grain of salt and try it out. Doesn't hurt to try or ask. But to rage at the idea is incredibly daft. But like I said. If you want to stay mediocre then feel free to. Other's, including myself would like to be good at stuff, especially when it's so easy to be in this game.

[BlueMage]

I see some melee/tanks at Lv50 who still dont know how combos work.

FFXIV has, by far, no contest, the dumbest playerbase on average I've ever seen in an MMO.

[Ri_ri]

It doesn't matter what abilities you field tested. Paladins have NO ABILITIES that do more damage than a DPS job, no matter what oath you are using.

If you can hold hate from the rest of your party while using Sword Oath, knock yourself out. If you lose aggro for even one second because you are using Sword Oath instead of Shield Oath, you are reducing the DPS of the party, and are at fault. You become the problem.

This person, who's actually a Paladin, disagrees with you:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...id-high-levels.

And honestly, simple math means that your enmity with Shield Oath on is less than 100%, much less 100% + Sword Oath. I'll not claim that I am right, as I've not tanked after Dzaemel (to avoid the kind of shit that's going on this thread), but here's the food for thought.

[FinagleABagel]

This person, who's actually a Paladin, disagrees with you:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...id-high-levels.
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The thread is no more than the blind leading the blind. Use shield oath, unchain your healer who can do far more damage than any paladin.

Heck, I can pull mobs off a Shield Oath paladin with really basic AoE combos. Did I mentioned I'm a scholar? Note - I wouldn't pull mobs if I couldn't tank them, but I can - so I do. The less damage on the tank buys me that much longer to stay in DPS mode.

A basic rotation for me is a double DoT -> Bane -> Ruin II -> Energy Drain -> Ruin II -> Energy Drain.

I will melt through stuff like AK if I have a tank that understand that I do more damage than he does and will gladly DPS if I don't have to babysit.

[Gungan]

This person, who's actually a Paladin, disagrees with you:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...id-high-levels.

And honestly, simple math means that your enmity with Shield Oath on is less than 100%, much less 100% + Sword Oath. I'll not claim that I am right, as I've not tanked after Dzaemel (to avoid the kind of shit that's going on this thread), but here's the food for thought.

That doesn't really negate my point, which was that you can play however you like, as long as it's not a detriment to the group. The OP of this thread in particular was shown to be wrong about his rotation, but I really wouldn't care unless there's some DPS check we're failing.