Please do not lock Jobs to the Weapon Class that unlocks them.

[Zenaku]

After my last post I am starting to wonder why we've latched on to this idea of jobs gaining new weapons. I mean I guess it makes sense when we hear the words "job" and specialization. We obviously think traditional roles with traditional weapons.

Really though if they start unlocking unique weapons for jobs doesn't that limit the possibility of new base classes in the future? Perhaps not but it starts creating an environment of over-saturation regarding weapons. All they've said is that jobs will provide more specialized roles and will attain that through unique abilities and skillsets. In fact that's ALL they've said, that they will gain unique skills.

It's more than likely a bit presumptuous to think that the new jobs will coincide with new weapons.

it make sense what else would use a great sword? or Scyth sure there a DOL using a Scyth but that not really really a Scyth for say it look like it but DRK Scyth would be diff. Class system would just be the base and job would be the building it should some what allow to use more wep and it's own type also.

[Focant]

it make sense what else would use a great sword? or Scyth sure there a DOL using a Scyth but that not really really a Scyth for say it look like it but DRK Scyth would be diff. Class system would just be the base and job would be the building it should some what allow to use more wep and it's own type also.

Well, no offense, but "it makes sense" is hardly a proper reasoning. I don't claim to know what will happen and only know what very little they've told us. So far though there is no indication that jobs = weapons. Adding a G.Sword class that unlocks Drk, at this point, is just as plausible as Mrd unlocking it.

[Jinko]

Well, no offense, but "it makes sense" is hardly a proper reasoning. I don't claim to know what will happen and only know what very little they've told us. So far though there is no indication that jobs = weapons. Adding a G.Sword class that unlocks Drk, at this point, is just as plausible as Mrd unlocking it.

Problem is what would you called a G.sword class :S

All Lancer, Gladiator, and Pugilist are are weapons.

Final Fantasy Tactics had no restrictions on what weapons a Job could use, Once they learned the skill to do it they could equip just about any weapon.

White Mages could equip Axes, Monks could equip Katanas, etc.

Before they learn those skills though Monks alone can use Fists, Bangles, Claws, Knuckles, Poles, Staffs, Spears, Knun-chucks, Sais, and many other weapons. MONKS in Final Fantasy Lore are NOT limited to Fist Weapons.

Firstly this is not FFT, lets not start comparing single player experiences to MMO ones, there has to be some form of set roles and restrictions for a decent MMO to work, that is the entire reason why they are adding jobs in the first place, I have said this twice now :P

[Cairdeas]

Problem is what would you called a G.sword class :S

Great Sword User would probably fall under something like Soldier for its Weapon Class name. Then it would unlock jobs that specialized in Great Swords.

It just does not make sense that Lancer can be a monk when Monk use Monk attack that use hand to hand

None of Monks attacks are Hand to Hand Attacks. Hand to Hand Attacks are Hand to Hand Attacks.

Monks use things like kick attacks, Chi blast, etc.

[Focant]

Problem is what would you called a G.sword class :S

Honestly I have no idea haha. That's not my "job!"

Augh that was awful.

Also, Cairdeas, your stance seems to rely heavily on previous SE titles. While I hate to say it, XIV is not tactics, it is not XI, and it is not any other FF game. I mean even from its inception it's been markedly different. I never played tactics but you're saying that any job could use any weapon. Now we look at XIV which uses the weapon to DEFINE the job. Obviously they are on totally opposite ends of the spectrum so how is it that you see it fit to compare them as if they were equal?

[Cairdeas]

Honestly I have no idea haha. That's not my "job!"

Augh that was awful.

Also, Cairdeas, your stance seems to rely heavily on previous SE titles. While I hate to say it, XIV is not tactics, it is not XI, and it is not any other FF game. I mean even from its inception it's been markedly different. I never played tactics but you're saying that any job could use any weapon. Now we look at XIV which uses the weapon to DEFINE the job. Obviously they are on totally opposite ends of the spectrum so how is it that you see it fit to compare them as if they were equal?

Weapons do not define jobs in FFXIV. They define a Weapon Class. Weapon Class =/= Job.

The whole point of the Armoury system is your Weapon.
The Job system is your Role in Combat.

Paladin is a Meat Shield and Self Healing Tank.
Warrior is a pure blood damage dealer
Thief is an obfuscating backside attacker and crowd control agent.
Dragoon is a hate control specialist.
White Mage is a Healer
Black Mage is an Elemental Nuker.

Those are Roles in Combat not weapons. Which is how all Final Fantasy's have done jobs.