Stop Buying Titan Kills

[Yurikitty]

Problem is Cm-Garuda really isn't that hard. Lots of DF groups will make it just fine, because the fights are easy. Titan is a whole nother ball game. Here is the down side to buying wins. Bob buys his win, his group says go die to a bomb, Bob is handed his relic. Bob sees a shout for Coil, he has his relic, he is surely good to go! Wrong. Players end up having zero to few Darklight items. They never learned the hard mechanics, they end up being horrible players.

I dont think Titan wins are a bad thing to sell. They provide people with limited play time a way to get something hard done if they don't have a raiding FC but still want progression. They help those that have done 210 attempts through DF get a win. Those FC's that sell wins, there members tend to have lots of gil and they buy with that gil in there communities and give back. But like so many people are saying, the sold wins have consequences to. This is one of those player grey areas that no one will ever agree on.

[Razor]

Problem is Cm-Garuda really isn't that hard. Lots of DF groups will make it just fine, because the fights are easy. Titan is a whole nother ball game. Here is the down side to buying wins. Bob buys his win, his group says go die to a bomb, Bob is handed his relic. Bob sees a shout for Coil, he has his relic, he is surely good to go! Wrong. Players end up having zero to few Darklight items. They never learned the hard mechanics, they end up being horrible players.

I disagree, mechanically and by strategy, I find Garuda to be significantly harder than Titan. The actual Titan Fight is a joke compared to other bosses in the game; it is not hard by any standard. There is no moving to boss to avoid things, there are no adds to kill, no special aspects of the fight whatsoever. Dodge a lane AoE, Dodge hotspots on the floor, and run from bombs that appear in 3 specific patterns that are easily recognizable, and keep everyone healed up. It's really that simple. Now people come up with all their reasons for why it's "hard" but the fact of the matter is that it's not. As a tank the fight is painfully boring, having to sit through 10+ minutes of LB farm/rotation just to get to the heart phase and then lack the dps to kill the heart. Or have people die before the heart phase, or maybe we get there and everyone wipes afterward from WoL or bombs or something. It's infuriating in its own right.

Theres 2 kinds of people buying runs imo. The people who know the fight, can kill it, and don't ever die from anything but cannot pass it simply because everyone else isn't up to standard. And then the bad people who need to get carried. I think once the gearlock comes out, so long as Titan is a requirement of average iLv65 or iLv70 then things will improve. It will at very least cut out all the of the poorly geared people just trying to get carried through it and get a quick relic. Then parties will be limited to people who at the very least have the HP and DPS potential to win, and buying a run shouldn't be so seen as the "only way to win" for many.

[kukurumei]

I disagree, mechanically and by strategy, I find Garuda to be significantly harder than Titan. The actual Titan Fight is a joke compared to other bosses in the game; it is not hard by any standard. There is no moving to boss to avoid things, there are no adds to kill, no special aspects of the fight whatsoever. Dodge a lane AoE, Dodge hotspots on the floor, and run from bombs that appear in 3 specific patterns that are easily recognizable, and keep everyone healed up. It's really that simple. Now people come up with all their reasons for why it's "hard" but the fact of the matter is that it's not. As a tank the fight is painfully boring, having to sit through 10+ minutes of LB farm/rotation just to get to the heart phase and then lack the dps to kill the heart. Or have people die before the heart phase, or maybe we get there and everyone wipes afterward from WoL or bombs or something. It's infuriating in its own right.

Theres 2 kinds of people buying runs imo. The people who know the fight, can kill it, and don't ever die from anything but cannot pass it simply because everyone else isn't up to standard. And then the bad people who need to get carried. I think once the gearlock comes out, so long as Titan is a requirement of average iLv65 or iLv70 then things will improve. It will at very least cut out all the of the poorly geared people just trying to get carried through it and get a quick relic. Then parties will be limited to people who at the very least have the HP and DPS potential to win, and buying a run shouldn't be so seen as the "only way to win" for many.

This is all that is wrong with the community... I remember when a healer joined on a titan run, and said "I'm on my second relic, was a tank, it's not that hard". He not only died just as much, he also missed read several times and killed the tank during mountain buster phase.

Not so easy on this side of the fence is it.

[Sebazy]

This is all that is wrong with the community... I remember when a healer joined on a titan run, and said "I'm on my second relic, was a tank, it's not that hard". He not only died just as much, he also missed read several times and killed the tank during mountain buster phase.

Not so easy on this side of the fence is it.

Thing is, he is kind of right (even if yes, once you know 'the spot' it's a boringly easy fight as tank). Done properly it doesn't throw massive damage at you like say Caduceus, nor is it a super tight DPS and execution test like the Elevator gauntlet. It simply boils down to learning Titan's entirely predictable pattern and being comfortable with doing your role well without getting flustered. An FC group did Titan HM in bikinis and I'm pretty certain that with our game faces on I could solo heal it.