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  1. #21
    Player
    Agenteusa's Avatar
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    Ryzekin Caudemus
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephraim View Post
    [B]If you're a healer and you see an Archer kiting a mob like an idiot, let them die so someone with an ounce of common sense can tank it!
    Thank you.
    Don't say thank you after being a moron. First of all from what I see you're nto even an archer. Second most of us kite cause we know we will die to shitty tanks that can't hold aggro and several times there's no healer in FATE's.

    I know cause I died several times standing there waiting for a heal.

    Third, most times I root the mob, but the roflstomp dpsdpsdps mentality of others makes them not even see the sign that the mob is rooted.

    So, if you want me to stop kiting, stop being an idiot dps and tank and start doing your job. Seems by the approach you took to archer players that you fit in the idiot dps category.

    Thank you.
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  2. #22
    Player
    Tua's Avatar
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    Character
    Tua Teatime
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Not exactly feasible in multiple mob situations...I'd have to know what mob is eating them.
    The OP was talking about FATE boss mobs. I don't think any solo archer kiting trash mobs around in FATEs even expects heals (though I tip my smexy feathered hat to the healers that do throw some even my way!). Still, tab-targeting around and using target-of-target/mouseover heals is easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agenteusa View Post
    So, if you want me to stop kiting, stop being an idiot dps and tank and start doing your job. Seems by the approach you took to archer players that you fit in the idiot dps category.
    Reworded slightly: So, if you want me to stop kiting, stop whining, use Provoke and start doing your job.
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  3. #23
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    Rilr's Avatar
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    Character
    Raya Kurokawa
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    Shiva
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    Paladin Lv 60
    How does a tank lose aggro at fates?
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  4. #24
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    point09micron's Avatar
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    Turambar Mormegil
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    By being saddled with DDs who don't look at the aggro list ever. Not just archers either.
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  5. #25
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    I have to agree with the OP, when i pull the mob, i stop attacking and use my enmity dumps rather than kiting the mob and stopping HALF the raid from doing dps.

    Most of the time the archers even continue to attack, which means its close to impossible to get hate off of them.
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    Last edited by ChaozK; 10-09-2013 at 09:58 PM.

  6. #26
    Player aswedishtiger's Avatar
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    Character
    Palamecia Dalmasca
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NZ_Player View Post
    the responses from archers only reinforces the preconceived stereotype people have of those that play the class
    a combination of that level of mentality coupled together with the fate leveled 'never set foot in an instance, never changed or upgraded gear since level 15, oh, i only have this crafting gear, nothing else' assures my stance of never ever pugging
    yep, just this

    sooo /thread and l2p all you archer bads
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  7. #27
    Player
    Agenteusa's Avatar
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    Ryzekin Caudemus
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 32
    No, I do wait to start dpsing and I don't even use CD's at the start (yes even in FATE's where people have a tendency to tag whatever they can). I am a tank myself as well.

    But if after waiting 3 seconds and unleashing my first rotation the aggro is on me I'm sorry but it's the tank's fault not mine.
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  8. #28
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    Character
    Leonas Dias
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    This reminds me of the other day.

    Here I was leveling Archer for blm. Cactaur Jack is up. Theres a GLD and someoen else I beleive with a heal spell there too. I go, oh goody.

    I hop down, I start an ability rotation. I immediately go into yellow, I just arrived and they've already been here for a bit. No biggie, next ability, yellow turns to orange. Uhhh....
    I wait a second, it flips back to yellow, I do a couple of abilities, oh god its red and after me.

    I'm not going to spend a huge amount of time just auto attacking this boss to death because the tank can't read his abilities and learn what enmity means. If he doesn't want to generate threat and tank, thats fine, I can run in circles. Thankfully, archer is 15 and time to move on to thm.
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    All is in vain.
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    Rivers of swords must join as one,
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  9. #29
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    Xenob's Avatar
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    Character
    Oni Sixx
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    This is hardly just an archer problem. It's a bad player problem.
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  10. #30
    Player
    Rilr's Avatar
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    Character
    Raya Kurokawa
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by point09micron View Post
    By being saddled with DDs who don't look at the aggro list ever. Not just archers either.
    I've never lost aggro especially on Bosses at Fates when I leveled my Tank. Most likely you just encountered undergeared tanks or those who don't read their abilities and just use those with a fancy icon.
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