Get rid of Stacking Regen/Medica II?

[Starcore]

Because nerfing your fellow healers in a PVE game benefits you right?
I would understand if you ask for nerf based on a pvp competitive game but PVE? lol

I was thinking the same thing, it can only help you.

[sharazisspecial]

I was thinking the same thing, it can only help you.

No because if they are balancing content around 6 whm stacking regens then pts with more then 2+ sch are screwed. If they arent balancing content around stacking regens then sch pts will still be less desirable because stacking regens is going to trivialize 24 man content.

Now i am certain se will make sure that healing is not made too easy by regen stacking. Because they hate it when people beat their bosses quickly. However the question is will they compensate pts that have multiple sch.

SE seem to be balancing content around either 2 whm or 1whm,1sch. Which has caused some fights to be impossible or much harder for double SCH. Such as coil 4 enrage damage.

Job imbalances which either come from 1 job being much stronger(e.g pld vs warrior) or certain jobs being much more stack-able(whm vs sch, debuff cap vs smn) will result in negative consequences to weaker classes such as warrior main tanks or double sch.

So no Whm/pld being op only helps whm/pld . It doesn't help sch/war at all it makes it harder for them .Because content will be balanced around the more tested/op job.

[Starcore]

No because if they are balancing content around 6 whm stacking regens then pts with more then 2+ sch are screwed. If they arent balancing content around stacking regens then sch pts will still be less desirable because stacking regens is going to trivialize 24 man content.

Well when you put it that way... thanks for the clarity

[Riko_113]

This would not fix double sch or fix undesirability of sch for crystal tower. 5 whm 1 sch pts would still be the optimal. Because the additional whms would heal at full potency with cure2/medica but a 2nd sch will heal half potency with adlo and succor.

However 5-6 regen /medica 2 stacking is going to make healing such a joke lol. Though se wants undergeared people to beat crystal tower via duty finder soo maybe they dont care. I will really be pissed if i run into multiple sch in my duty finder raid lol

Crystal Tower is not going to be a zerg of 24 ppl. They've already said that 3 teams of 8 will be splitting up and doing content separately so will need a normal 8 man team formation on each team. 3WHM and 3SCH will still be useful.

As a WHM, while 2 medica II is damn sexy, I prefer having SCH as my other healer. The shielding and regular small heals really makes WHM healing easier since the entire team doesn't have health shooting all around like a ricocheting bullet. It's better for mana and since SCH are proactive healers, safer for the team. I prefer to have a SCH shield up with those big hits are coming. Garuda HM for example, there have been times where we were going to wipe because the stones went down too fast but a SCH shielded at the right time preventing 1shot and then we were able to get the team back to full quickly with both of our heals and their shield to keep health from going back down as fast.

Scholars need to stop underestimating their skills and learn to play their class. They aren't meant to play like WHM and I've seen some amazing SCH. I've also seen some amazing WAR that out-tank PLD. Those people know how to play their class and aren't trying to play it like their counterpart.

[Mireillechan]

this thread remind me the one demanding nerfs to paladins instead of buffing warriors .

[ApolloGenX]

Oh now people have just turned bitter. It was only a matter of time before they started calling for nerfs. I had such higher hopes for this community.

Not shockingly the OP is a closet SCH. Surprise of all surprises.

[Teraluna]

What do you guys think?

Allow me to reciprocate mr Gladiator:
Hey, lets nerf a couple of Gladiator skills, what do you guys think?

[ApolloGenX]

Allow me to reciprocate mr Gladiator:
Hey, lets nerf a couple of Gladiator skills, what do you guys think?

Don't bother. He has a 50 ACN and a 35 Conj. He's a whining SCH. He is probably frustrated from being so terrible that he is just lashing out calling for nerfs... it's more of a comment on the state of his/her destructive role in the community than it is on class balance.

[Teraluna]

Don't bother. He has a 50 ACN and a 35 Conj. He's a whining SCH. He is probably frustrated from being so terrible that he is just lashing out calling for nerfs... it's more of a comment on the state of his/her destructive role in the community than it is on class balance.

Ah, ok. Well I have lv50 Sch (and Smn got tagged along with it). The two healing classes are different and designed that way. I've run in groups on my whm where the sch has been excellent, making things so much easier for us both. Likewise I've been on my sch and balanced well with whm's.
I think the whm may be easier to play, but a good sch (not me yet :-) can be a real benefit.

At the end of the day its down to which class gives you the most enjoyment. Levelling is pretty easy, so if you're frustrated with one, try some others.

[ApolloGenX]

Ah, ok. Well I have lv50 Sch (and Smn got tagged along with it). The two healing classes are different and designed that way. I've run in groups on my whm where the sch has been excellent, making things so much easier for us both. Likewise I've been on my sch and balanced well with whm's.
I think the whm may be easier to play, but a good sch (not me yet :-) can be a real benefit.

At the end of the day its down to which class gives you the most enjoyment. Levelling is pretty easy, so if you're frustrated with one, try some others.

I agree. The learning curve on the SCH is higher, imo. The more practice I get with the class, the more I like it.