Get rid of Stacking Regen/Medica II?

[Kalakbar]

White Mage is an easier job to heal on, but it's also more limited. WHM as a stronger option for most circumstances, but is only able to do one thing at a time, due to cast times and GCDs. As a Scholar, I can manually have Eos casting a heal, cast a Succor, and immediately Lustrate the tank who just ate a mountain buster while not going onto global cooldown.

I started using the DPS parser recently, and it showed some really interesting things. On harder fights, just Titan HM, a WHM will often outheal my Scholar. And if my Scholar didn't have a pet, this would be an issue. However, my Scholar also has a little ball of light that healed for almost as much as I did on that fight, meaning I suddenly had a commanding lead on healing.

TL;DR; Scholar is amazing, and shields aren't the niche of the Scholar--Faeries are. Shields don't have to stack for Scholars to be useful stacked.

[Kobolt]

Balancing... my my, isn't that a popular word these days...

[Bridgeburner]

What do you guys think?

I think you're trolling for posts.

[Belandomolando]

The best fix IMO is to give Succor a small HoT or fix Eos to stop casting Whispering automatically.

[Zaresin]

May i remind you that its whm who are vehemently against buffing scholars..... because buffing your fellow healers in a pve game hurts you right? Just saying.

This made me laugh because it is so true. But to be honest as many who play whm have pointed out, why would they want to give up being top needed healer class when stacking whm clearly makes the content easier compared to stacking scholars.

[davloh]

Seems only some subpar sch in particular has issues while the good ones embraced their role and understand/utilize their sch abilities. *see link in my previous post*
I will keep having fun partying with these good sch while supporting their cause to be buffed in some ways so our runs go even smoother in this PVE game.

[Zaresin]

Seems only some subpar sch in particular has issues while the good ones embraced their role and understand/utilize their sch abilities. *see link in my previous post*
I will keep having fun partying with these good sch while supporting their cause to be buffed in some ways so our runs go even smoother in this PVE game.

You still are missing the issue. You're running as your whm with a sch. There isn't an issue here (minus the buggy fairy but that is more of a constant and can be somewhat mitigated by hardware macros). The issue becomes apparent when you have more than one sch in a group due to the shield. That is what people are pissy about. It's not a playstyle issue or a player issue. It's a mechanic issue.

We also do not know if the regen/medica stacking is working as intended as I have not seen any dev post on it. Same could be said for the overwrite of the shield.

[davloh]

I understand the issue about having 2 sch in a 8 man group.
You are missing the point where i keep mentioning, we should buff sch or fix it so they are more useful even in a 2 sch group, instead of just nerfing whm so that the current situation with 2 sch in a group is deemed acceptable.
So whats next after they nerf whm so 2 random terribad sch can get into some groups? Some Whiny whm asking for sch nerfs, rinse and repeat? This will never end, things will never be 100% balanced. This is my point that somehow was missed.
We should work together to fix classes that are lacking so they are more balanced than nerfing 1 class to make things *balanced*.

[Zaresin]

So whats next after they nerf whm so 2 random terribad sch can get into some groups? Some Whiny whm asking for sch nerfs, rinse and repeat? This will never end, things will never be 100% balanced. This is my point that somehow was missed.
We should work together to fix classes that are lacking so they are more balanced than nerfing 1 class to make things *balanced*.

Which why I'm not advocating nerfs or buffs rather a mechanic change and or bug fix since we don't know that the overwrite is working as intended (if you know where a dev has commented on it I would love to read it as I can't find anything). And please don't call sch that aren't doing that well "bad". Call them a work in progress. Many approach sch like they would a whm (reaction) where they need to be approached as disc priest from wow (anticipation). Give them time to learn and work with them if they are doing something wrong.

Side note: the fairy reminds me of a huntard pet. Bout as bright too.

[Garnatian]

I understand the issue about having 2 sch in a 8 man group.
So whats next after they nerf whm so 2 random terribad sch can get into some groups? Some Whiny whm asking for sch nerfs, rinse and repeat? This will never end, things will never be 100% balanced. This is my point that somehow was missed.
We should work together to fix classes that are lacking so they are more balanced than nerfing 1 class to make things *balanced*.

This isn't a nerf to WHM in any conceivable way, unless you think SCHs are bad and you want to run 2 WHMs.