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    Because nerfing your fellow healers in a PVE game benefits you right?
    I would understand if you ask for nerf based on a pvp competitive game but PVE? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by davloh View Post
    Because nerfing your fellow healers in a PVE game benefits you right?
    I would understand if you ask for nerf based on a pvp competitive game but PVE? lol
    They are introducing pvp to this game.. lol so ya..
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    Quote Originally Posted by davloh View Post
    Because nerfing your fellow healers in a PVE game benefits you right?
    I would understand if you ask for nerf based on a pvp competitive game but PVE? lol
    I was thinking the same thing, it can only help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcore View Post
    I was thinking the same thing, it can only help you.
    No because if they are balancing content around 6 whm stacking regens then pts with more then 2+ sch are screwed. If they arent balancing content around stacking regens then sch pts will still be less desirable because stacking regens is going to trivialize 24 man content.

    Now i am certain se will make sure that healing is not made too easy by regen stacking. Because they hate it when people beat their bosses quickly. However the question is will they compensate pts that have multiple sch.

    SE seem to be balancing content around either 2 whm or 1whm,1sch. Which has caused some fights to be impossible or much harder for double SCH. Such as coil 4 enrage damage.

    Job imbalances which either come from 1 job being much stronger(e.g pld vs warrior) or certain jobs being much more stack-able(whm vs sch, debuff cap vs smn) will result in negative consequences to weaker classes such as warrior main tanks or double sch.

    So no Whm/pld being op only helps whm/pld . It doesn't help sch/war at all it makes it harder for them .Because content will be balanced around the more tested/op job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    No because if they are balancing content around 6 whm stacking regens then pts with more then 2+ sch are screwed. If they arent balancing content around stacking regens then sch pts will still be less desirable because stacking regens is going to trivialize 24 man content.

    Well when you put it that way... thanks for the clarity
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    Quote Originally Posted by davloh View Post
    Because nerfing your fellow healers in a PVE game benefits you right?
    I would understand if you ask for nerf based on a pvp competitive game but PVE? lol
    May i remind you that its whm who are vehemently against buffing scholars..... because buffing your fellow healers in a pve game hurts you right? Just saying.
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    Good thing I am not one of those whm you mentioned then. I am all for buffs to my fellow healers especially when I team with sch often as well. It's not just those "whm" but those whiny sch that want nerfs to their fellow players in a PvE that is the problem. Less whining, more playing. Just saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by davloh View Post
    It's not just those "whm" but those whiny sch that want nerfs to their fellow players in a PvE that is the problem. Less whining, more playing. Just saying
    What I have a problem with is your attitude of someone willing to speak out against the inequality of a class compared to its counterpart. You have one class that actually suffers greatly due to the skill mechanics when ran with two sch as their shields overwrite one another (as well as a useless pet AI). Compare that to whm who actually benefit from the interaction from each other's spells. When doing high level content you have to decide what to bring and I can tell you having more than one of my class who overwrites half of their own skills if more than one is in a group is detrimental to the group. I would rather take the two whm who benefit from each others spells.

    Also saying someone is whiney for speaking up is like the wealthy person saying a beggar is being needy.
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    I have a problem with players asking for nerfs, lets make the game with 1 tank 1 dps 1 heal job so everyone is equal?
    Comparing things in a game to real life is legit right?
    Anyways i'm all for buffing my fellow scholars, let their shield stack or whatever to help them do their job better, makes my runs easier.
    Unless the bulk of the complaints come from certain sore sch that has been rejected by groups constantly, then i would say keep trying/finding groups that want you.
    Might be a player issue, when sch i know has no problems getting into runs or raids. Just saying :P

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...he-point/page3
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    Last edited by davloh; 10-10-2013 at 02:21 PM.

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    I'm not advocating for nerfs or buffs for either side. I just understand where they see coming from and see the point. Sch as described have more utility but less power compared to the whm which is by design. The only issue that I see with the class (don't get me started on that stupid fairy it can get eaten by ifrit) is the shield overwrite. It becomes a detriment to the group when you have more then one sch due to that. That needs to be addressed.

    Also you totally missed the meaning behind my comment. I was saying you were being pretentious.
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