Legit Players Banned/Punished due to RMT *FOR DUMMIES: A GUIDE*

[Schubalts]

Yeah... I've seen this before.

Your little demo should have been written more like this:

Player A buys gil
Player A uses that gil to level a craft
Player A swears to any god he can think of that he leveled that craft the legit way
Player A makes a fortune off of the craft
Player A gets banned for buying gil in the first place
Player A screams to the high heavens about injustice, but in the end, he still bought gil, no matter how much he denies it

Yup, they totally bought gil and are lying about it.

What's that? SE themselves have said that these people whose accounts were reinstated didn't buy gil? I wonder why SE would say that.

[abesut]

Gotta love these threads.

1 side is deeply naive and don't think SE can do wrong

The other side are the ones who got punished, innocent or not, they keep complaining to no end. If you want to have any impact; unsub!

Both sides are throwing mud at each other, meanwhile I'm just sitting here eating popcorn :P

(my wife and I was affected by this 'wipe' even though we didn't do anything wrong. I find this thread really amusing. I don't care about your opinion regarding my case.)

MORE POPCORN! spiced with all these delicious tears

[Yshnal]

I've seen many uninformed individuals [...]

I am not a player who has been banned [...]

...this isn't an opinion on the situation, this is what is currently happening to people.

Just putting it together to show what I said in another thread. Even if this is true (and I can say that I don't know if it is, unlike others do), a lot of people are just assuming that that's exactly what happened just because some people that they don't know said so. Many people have said that they've made vast amounts of gil with crafting yet they haven't been banned or their gil removed. Do their words have less weight or something? No, it's just the same as the first ones.

Believe just what you see with your own eyes, not what others tell you.

SE themselves have said that these people whose accounts were reinstated didn't buy gil?

Link please? And one on these forums if it's possible, not on Reddit.

[Eripha]

Go troll another thread. They can post here for as long as the subscription time they already purchased will last, and they should continue posting about this ridiculous situation.

Why does someone always assume a troll post when it is something they don't want to hear? It is my opinion.

[Schubalts]

They probably have unsub'b (one guy has explicitly said he has unsub'd). Doing that doesn't remove your already paid for gametime, so they are free to draw more attention to the issue on the forums..

[Shiken]

This all seems to be only half true to me. I have seen threads where people would admit to purposely exploiting RMT buyers buy selling said items at crazy prices. These people deserve to be banned because they are indirectly supporting RMT and know it, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the bulk of the group of people who hadn't actually bought RMT, but were temp banned.

The problem here is that the vast majority of these complaints are made by people who probably deserve the ban and are mad that they got caught. They then try to take the story of a few people who got mixed up in this mess and blow it up to achieve on of two things. Either their stuff restored, or to make SE look bad for catching them. Until we see some hard evidence, no one really knows who is telling the truth and who is lying. What we do know is that there has to be more to this investigation than people selling on the market, or most players would be banned by now.

[Schubalts]

Link please? And one on these forums if it's possible, not on Reddit.

The only links are to the news posts about SE's "Anti RMT Measures". You're not given a link when customer support tells you that accounts that were under investigation and were found to not be in violation of the TOS, would only receive temporary suspensions.

Why does someone always assume a troll post when it is something they don't want to hear? It is my opinion.

I wasn't saying that you were a troll. I was referring to the Gyrus going "Why are you still here?", which adds nothing to the discussion.

[Yshnal]

The only links are to the news posts about SE's "Anti RMT Measures". You're not given a link when customer support tells you that accounts that were under investigation and were found to not be in violation of the TOS, would only receive temporary suspensions.

Then we are in the situation that I'm saying: random people say something with no actual proof and many others just believe them and/or start a crusade to defend something that they don't really know about.

I'm not saying that it's not true, as I don't know like I said, but we don't know if it's a lie either as to make threads like this one or defend people that we don't know without knowing what really happened. Only people affected by it know it and, by all means, they're in their right to vote with their wallets. But getting this out of hand, as it's happening, with many people afraid of selling things because someone said that they were banned or got their gil taken from them for doing so, is wrong and just screams of "hysteria".

[scarebearz]

I think if we were making false claims, that a Community Rep would have at least commended on here.

As it is, I think they realise what a mess they have made for themselves.

We want accounts Investigated by an actual Human GM, I for one would be more than happy for them to post results here.

That way they could clear our names and if anyone is lying, they would be named and shamed.

[Kayanarka]

As I said before, one of my best gaming buddies was the first 50 miner on cactaur. Made over 3m JUST SELLING MATS. As of right now, he has @200k left and an email from SE basically telling him that he's guilty.)
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When he Made over 3m JUST SELLING MATS was he selling it for a price that would require the purchaser to do RMT to buy the items. To me it sounds like what they are saying is that if you made more then what would have been possible had there not been RMT to exploit the money is fake anyways and goes away.

to gain so much coin using methods that promoted only ppl with rmt could complete the transaction is in itself where you cheated.

be happy you can still play and have way more gil then i will ever get in the next few months i am sure. in real life you can go to jail for playing a market like that.