Legit Players Banned/Punished due to RMT *FOR DUMMIES: A GUIDE*

[Overon]

I don't think you live in the same reality as I do, there are loads of people who plead guilty and go to prison every day. What a distraction, can we get back on topic?

We are on topic , a Very popular one at that , not my fault that not all agree with you

[Sadebreth]

Oh god, not this again...

Opportunity Cost, go google it and learn what it means. Manually gathering the item yourself does not change the market value of said item.

You are the one treating a virtual economy from an mmo like a real world economy. In the real world there are rules and regulations to govern everything in an economy and whole organizations to police it. There is nothing like that in this game. There could be a thousand of one item from different people on the AH at 20k gil and one person comes along and sets their price at 200k. Then he could get his buddy to buy it for that much. As soon as someone sees that everyone starts putting that thing up for 200k just because ONE sold for that much. The other thousand are still there. There was no supply and demand just someone trying to manipulate the market in a game. I have seen it a thousand times.

[Aenarion]

No we live in a world where we break laws , by Reality or Imaginary(Fantasy/Games) and then when caught we go on rants claiming we are innocent .

I personally think MMO companies should itemize a List for all to see on every Banned/Suspended Character , that way we can all know what cheaters they are !

Edit: If we had that we could all look up So and SO "I am Innocent" and copy and paste their Skeletons and post them in threads like these !

Sure, but I think it'd also be a good idea to create a list for terrble posters, that way we can see in advance whose posts are worthless.

FYI, I don't RMT, I was not suspended, nor did I lose any of my gil, and I still think your posts are terrible.

[Lucroarna]

We are on topic , a Very popular one at that , not my fault that not all agree with you

She's actually disagreeing with someone making a bad point. You're wrong, this isn't an opinion you have, this is an inflammatory remark you're making to purposefully disagree to cause problems.

It *IS* your fault for being incorrect, and I think you might be better off logging off from the forums as your toxic way of speaking is not worthwhile nor wanted.

[Overon]

Snip.

^ another good point
Not all of these suspensions were about RMT either I bet .
People who slam up the Prices are hurting the Economy and forcing the weak to buy Gil to afford over priced Mats .
No its not their fault for the Weak but they know for sure they are going to get paid and that pay they pick to ignore it comes from most of the time Illegal Gil.

[Overon]

She's actually disagreeing with someone making a bad point. You're wrong, this isn't an opinion you have, this is an inflammatory remark you're making to purposefully disagree to cause problems.

It *IS* your fault for being incorrect, and I think you might be better off logging off from the forums as your toxic way of speaking is not worthwhile nor wanted.

Another issue "Entitlement"
Because I do not believe the garbage being posted and threaded spam like , "I better log off from the forums" , sorry master , I did not know you owned them or had more rights than me

[Noshpan]

To keep server economies from blowing up, SE has every right to remove any gil that may have acquired via RMT services.

To put up a possible hypothetical let us assume that Player A is a legit player. They play by the rules. They put up an item they've farmed/produced onto the AH. It ends up purchased by Player B, a person who bought gil from an RMT service. So, rather than permanently banning the account of Player A, SE, instead, removes the gil that Player A acquired from Player B.

As frustrating as it is, I would rather have ill-gotten gil, be it from RMT, dupes or hacks, be removed from game instead of continuing to circulate and inflating the server economy to catastrophic levels. Nobody wants to be "that guy on the server with the horrible in-game economy".

[Overon]

The Subject was never changed , it was an example directly linked in the thinking of this thread .
So and so is punished by breaking the rules................"I am innocent blah blah poor me"

Right on Topic , just not what you wanted to read.

[Raymeo]

From my undestanding, SE has said to all banned players that they will gladly accept requests for appeals to perform a more depth investigation of any accounts that claim to have been wrongly punished, and if these accounts are found innocent then they will be compensated for whatever time/gil they lost.

I am not a player who has been banned, but I think this is ridiculous and the worst way I've seen an MMO handle RMT. There are better ways.

I agree, and I reckon that most on these forums will also. If you feel strongly enough about this to use the above quote as the point of a new thread though, then you should feel strongly enough about it to suggest some of the "better ways" that you must already have in mind. Don't hold out on us or SE. In its current state, your original post is set up to accomplish nothing but some venting. Instead, if you could please elaborate, your post would do the game a service by sharing the constructive criticism that you allude to having in mind.

[Overon]

Sure, but I think it'd also be a good idea to create a list for terrble posters, that way we can see in advance whose posts are worthless.

FYI, I don't RMT, I was not suspended, nor did I lose any of my gil, and I still think your posts are terrible.

Terrible Posters are out in the open , easy to see.
But
Cheaters and Hackers , well .............they get to be in the shadows .

Nice Flame
Must not read TOS too well .