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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    It is not zero impact.

    If I'm just standing there using my RoH combo and not doing anything else, I'll do somewhere around 115-125 on PLD. But if I just set there using the Butcher's Block combo and nothing else on the dummy I'll do somwhere between 120-130. This is just on the dummies. But my DPS falls on Anantaboga on PLD, where it rises on Anantaboga on WAR. why? Because I'm using Defensive cooldowns on PLD which doesn't add to my DPS, and on WAR all my cooldowns except for maybe 2 add to my DPS.
    Are you like using multiple cool-downs at once? If so then you'd clip into your GCD's with animation locks, but that is just poor play.

    Edit: Circle of Scorn and Spirits within are off the GCD and should be used in a DPS rotation. RoH combo vs. Butchers combo is unfair as War has one very low dmg move off the GCD but is generates almost zero damage. A large portion of Pally damage stems from those non-GCD linked moves.

    It could drop for numerous reasons (you testing in Sworth Oath and being Shield Oath for Anan for one). Your party make-up would have to be entirely equal so buffs didn't alter the results, etc. Also your explanation doesn't make any sense in relation to your DPS going up as a Warrior. If you were right, Warrior wouldn't move while Paladin would go down.

    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    It's not unfair. As a PLD, RoH combo is your main move, and as a WAR, Butcher's Block is your main move. In a real play situation, I have Circle of Scorn and Spirits Within on cooldown constantly for their hate generation properties. It doesn't add up to that much at all.

    If I drop Shield Oath for PLD then I would also have to drop Defiance for WAR and then the disparity becomes even greater.

    All things being equal. PLD was not built for DPS, WAR is. IF you don't have significantly more DPS than PLD as a WAR then something needs to change. (I have a very hard time Off Tanking because of my DPS centric gameplay. It's near impossible for me to single target offtank with a paladin MT because I am guaranteed to pull hate in 5 secs)
    Jee whiz. Dude, a Warrior benefits more from that test, because their abilities hit harder, Paladins compensate for their weaker individual GCD moves by having some that aren't bound to it. You are automatically skewing your tests by showing your inability to milk out as much DPS as possible. Your selectiveness reinforces your own point, no wonder you're convinced Warriors are somehow 'built' for DPS, which would then make them shitty tanks right? Warriors do more DPS I agree, but not by a massive margin.

    I have to go, I'm sure someone will fill my shoes. You also failed address the glaring hole in your theory about Anantaboga increasing your Warriors DPS.

    Edit: Btw, both classes equally benefit damage wise from increased offensive stats. Warrior's do gain more survivability from offence, but this doesn't impact DPS. (done for real now).
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    Last edited by RapBreon; 10-08-2013 at 11:20 PM.