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  1. #21
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    Bluejay's Avatar
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    Jei Sumnter
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 60
    This is totally going to kill this game. They went through the same thing with FF 11 and it almost destroyed that game. You'd think they would have learned from that lesson.
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  2. #22
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    Lily Lunaheart
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    New twist: botters are mass producing new characters and teleport-questing the newbie quests.

    Proof: happening right now in Pandaemonium Ul'dah. I noticed them in the Gladiator guild and I've been standing here for 20 minutes, they just teleport in one by one, hand in the quest and teleport out. Endless stream of the same character model with randomized names.

    Also I'm recording this right now, but I don't know how to encode this so dunno when or in what way I should make this video available. If you want a quick glimpse of this, come create a new character at Pandaemonium and visit the Ul'dah gladiator guild.

    I will edit this post when I leave/when they stop.

    EDIT: I have 30 minutes of footage, ending my watch now.

    Here's the footage at 4x speed playback. http://youtu.be/WlbrjXehhWM

    EDIT2: I just realized now...it was in the Pugilist guild. Not the Gladiator guild. orz
    Hey there. This same exact thing was happening during the weekend on Lamia too. I reported about 6-7 character names in one support desk submission - but I realised while making it, they were not the same characters. They were all brand new. All lvl 1 gladiators, hyur males, and all identical in appearance. They materialised, turned to talk to the Josias NPC, then vanished again. I sat there watching for 15 mins.

    Edit: Yes your youtube video is *exactly* what was happening on my server.
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    Last edited by Lilysparkle; 10-08-2013 at 01:00 AM.

  3. #23
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    Orophin's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Orophin Calmcacil
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Hopefully SE will get their hands on these bots so they can reverse engineer them and apply fixes to the game code. It doesn't personally affect me but it's really disheartening to see the bots and hacks this rampant.
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  4. #24
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    Swag Skullsplitter
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Botting has really killed MMOs for me, which is sad considering I've been playing nonstop for more than fifteen years now. My playstyle tends to revolve around money. I like having earning a huge bankroll and buying the most expensive stuff. Unfortunately, the scale of botting operations in recent games--such as GW2 and now FFXIV:ARR--just kills me. It destroys the markets and makes my gph downright negligible.

    The bots wouldn't be here without demand, and there is most definitely demand. I know more people who have purchased gil than who haven't. A lot of it comes from the content rush and the ego that fuels it, but equally damaging is the more modern sense that currency and the economy isn't part of the game--it's merely an impediment to fun (i.e. combat/killing) activities.

    I'd like to see the hammer come down on botters and gill-sellers more than anyone, but I don't expect any meaningful progress to be made. I can only hold out hope that future games like EQN will be cleaner, but with the current trend of allowing players to directly profit from gaming (RMAH, EQN structure building) I expect the botting to reach even more extreme levels.
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  5. #25
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    DivineOracle's Avatar
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    Sacred Sage
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 60
    It baffles me as to why they have let this go on for so long, they will jump on people exploiting fights quickly if you get to obtain really good gear to fast but teleporting bots? it's almost as if they are wanting this to happen.
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  6. #26
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    Grusum Poostrider
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    Moogle
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    Fisher Lv 50
    I understand this is annoying and spoils the game. I have also seen RMT activity and spent a good deal of time reporting them. As others have said it does take time. The main reason SE do not jump on every individual case is because they watch their activities.
    See who they trade with, see who they add to friend lists etc. So they can catch more at once. This effects RMT more because they lose a large amount of gil they have stored up, they then have to buy more new copies of the game to get back on their feet again. It also leads them to the people who buy the gil, which obviously removes customers.

    If they just jumped on 1 bot at a time they wouldn't be able the gather as much info and have as much of a damaging effect to the RMT business.
    What i have explained is quite obviously proved when you look at their posts on the lodestone.

    They are on the ball, getting frustrated and throwing round accusations is only going to increase your own frustration and unhappiness with the game and spoil your own enjoyment.
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  7. #27
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    Sacred Sage
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sixmp View Post
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    The problem with these is while they are active they are doing the damage, the longer they let them lose the worse it becomes, economy is already destroyed and they have more or less succeeded, and since some of them have been going for weeks you can imagine how much they made already, it's pretty ineffective.
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  8. #28
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    Grusum Poostrider
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    Moogle
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOracle View Post
    The problem with these is while they are active they are doing the damage, the longer they let them lose the worse it becomes, economy is already destroyed and they have more or less succeeded, and since some of them have been going for weeks you can imagine how much they made already, it's pretty ineffective.
    Well if they did the jump on every bot as soon as it was reported they wouldn't be able to do any of the other things i pointed out in my other post, which would make things far worse.
    What course of action would you suggest they take?
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  9. #29
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    Zraine Do'urth
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I wonder if these parasites know , the more they cheat and hack, the more ppl will get angry and leave the game BECAUSE OF THEM!

    Who are they going to sell their stuff to once they drive everyone away?
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  10. #30
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    Gridania
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    Zumi Kasumi
    World
    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    It's the people who buy gil are to blame for this. If there was nobody to sell their gil to they wouldn't do this.
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