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  1. #41
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    Rydin's Avatar
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    Nyris Reach
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    Jenova
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Yeah, but this is a chicken and egg situation, if people were not stupid and selfish enough to cheat by buying gil and XP from RMTs, these RMTs and their bots would have no reason to exist.
    Your entire argument hinges on the premise that only RMT use bots... A faulty premise to be sure.

    I mean, I do agree with the stuff you said... I would just imagine there are also a number of Non-RMT that use this.
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  2. #42
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    Lily Lunaheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    At first I started filling in a report, then in that first 30 seconds I notices five more bots pop in, and I didn't get their names. Then it hit me that it's impractical to report these names, because they don't stop. I could sit there 24 hours and new names will keep popping up. So I recorded the thing instead.

    Japanese forum mods have responded to my post over there and said they're aware of this and will be making backend changes to stop this. I guess the video did serve its purpose.

    The mod response there is:
    this post
    I can't read Japanese but thx for the reply, Zfz.
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  3. #43
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    Fiery Mojo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilysparkle View Post
    I can't read Japanese but thx for the reply, Zfz.
    Blessed be Google Chrome with auto-translate!
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  4. #44
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    Lygrin Noban
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    Hyperion
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    bumpi ng
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  5. #45
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    The best part is when you report them and the ticket just gets closed with no reply, while the teleporting bot goes on the rest of the day. People keep saying "it takes time". I wonder if those people ever played an MMO back in the days of server GMs actually being online on each server and dealing with things first hand. That requires paying more people though, so instead we get ticket systems that amount to glorified email.

    What good does it do to swoop in and delete ill-gotten gil if you leave in all of the farming bots making it?
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  6. #46
    Player Gyrus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakhar View Post
    The best part is when you report them and the ticket just gets closed with no reply, while the teleporting bot goes on the rest of the day. People keep saying "it takes time". I wonder if those people ever played an MMO back in the days of server GMs actually being online on each server and dealing with things first hand. That requires paying more people though, so instead we get ticket systems that amount to glorified email.

    What good does it do to swoop in and delete ill-gotten gil if you leave in all of the farming bots making it?

    No the only mmo's they played are void of gm's it seems...

    Finally, someone who gets it!
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  8. #47
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    Laiyenu Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekhar View Post
    Can always upload it to Youtube.
    Wouldn't really recommend that, I did it once and they hit me with copyright infringe for I have no idea what for.
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    I'm the Bloodgaru Queen.

  9. #48
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    Syaoran Nailo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakhar View Post
    The best part is when you report them and the ticket just gets closed with no reply, while the teleporting bot goes on the rest of the day. People keep saying "it takes time". I wonder if those people ever played an MMO back in the days of server GMs actually being online on each server and dealing with things first hand. That requires paying more people though, so instead we get ticket systems that amount to glorified email.

    What good does it do to swoop in and delete ill-gotten gil if you leave in all of the farming bots making it?
    And that is all that is needed to be done.

    -If every spam bot was instantly banned they would stop spamming in the cities as it would not be useful.
    -If every gathering bot was banned in a timely matter they would have a lot less money being made.

    To the argument that they need to do it longer to investigate I give you this response. You are saying let the problem get worse before working on fixing it. Square Enix has the tools to look back at the actions of any particular character. (It is why in your reports they ask you for the time, date, zone, along with the name of the character so they can pull up logs.) If evil RMT bot #24 is caught gathering iron ore, Square-Enix can trace back all of #24's actions since being created and find out where they sent the gil to without letting them continue to ruin the I game economy. On that same note when the person logs on I am sure the IP and MAC address is recorded. (IP for sure).
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  10. #49
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    Man as being a bst in ffxi BOY DO I MISS MPKING BOTS lol!
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  11. #50
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    Willy Beaming
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    Faerie
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    On a side note the rmt issue is as much the gilbuyers fault as it is the gil seller. If they would get rid of the spamming and the teleporters it would be an early christmas
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