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    The market works as this:
    I want to sell you 12 eggs at a certain price.
    You want 6 eggs.
    You either buy the 12 eggs, or look elsewhere for 6 eggs.
    If I wanted to sell just 6 eggs, I'd have listed it at a 6 eggs price.

    I don't see why anything needs to change, simply because people don't want to look and/or wait just to save money buying too many more than they want [which they can ultimately resell when they are finished].
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWag12787 View Post
    The market works as this:
    I want to sell you 12 eggs at a certain price.
    You want 6 eggs.
    You either buy the 12 eggs, or look elsewhere for 6 eggs.
    If I wanted to sell just 6 eggs, I'd have listed it at a 6 eggs price.

    I don't see why anything needs to change, simply because people don't want to look and/or wait just to save money buying too many more than they want [which they can ultimately resell when they are finished].
    This needs to change because you need to sell 40000 eggs, and you are only allowed to sell them in 40 wholesale lots. How do you divvy up the eggs for sale? Do you only put up 40 cartons of 12 at a time so you can sell them over a year? Or do you put up 40 lots of 1000 so that no sane person would want to buy a whole lot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinbios View Post
    This needs to change because you need to sell 40000 eggs, and you are only allowed to sell them in 40 wholesale lots. How do you divvy up the eggs for sale? Do you only put up 40 cartons of 12 at a time so you can sell them over a year? Or do you put up 40 lots of 1000 so that no sane person would want to buy a whole lot?
    No need to change. If there's a demand for 12 eggs at a time, wallmart type players like me will buy up your lot, break bulk and then retail it a dozen a time to other players at a markup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wazabi View Post
    No need to change. If there's a demand for 12 eggs at a time, wallmart type players like me will buy up your lot, break bulk and then retail it a dozen a time to other players at a markup.
    You think Walmart would dedicate a whole store to selling 40 cartons of 12 eggs for 2.49 each?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinbios View Post
    You think Walmart would dedicate a whole store to selling 40 cartons of 12 eggs for 2.49 each?
    No...they'll find a balance by studying the demand pattern...hence you'll see only 1 shelve of eggs rather than the whole store.
    Same goes for FF's market...I seldom if ever make more than 4 posting of the same item. Putting up 20 posting for 1pc of the same item is a waste of retainer slot unless the item is really in demand (for 1pc at that price, taking into account of potential undercutting).

    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfies View Post
    I do not think it is "Lazy" people as you say. Some of us can not spend or do not have hours to watch minute market fluctuations and adjust accordingly.
    You're right, some of us are working adults with other commitments. I get at most 2 hours on weekdays, and I spend at least 30mins of that session to trade. Some are better at optimizing their time, some are not...but you don't have to watch the market for hours and keep making adjustments in order to trade.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlmaMalma View Post
    Retainers have 20 spots. Do you really expect a seller to fill those up with 1 item sales?
    You're probably not optimizing your profitability if you have to do that....
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    Last edited by Wazabi; 10-09-2013 at 04:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wazabi View Post
    No...they'll find a balance by studying the demand pattern...hence you'll see only 1 shelve of eggs rather than the whole store.
    Except they're not limited to 40 spaces, which is why you won't be able to operate like them.
    Same goes for FF's market...I seldom if ever make more than 4 posting of the same item. Putting up 20 posting for 1pc of the same item is a waste of retainer slot unless the item is really in demand (for 1pc at that price, taking into account of potential undercutting).
    Right, you were saying buyers don't need to be able to buy part of a stack because "Walmart-type" players like yourself will buy up the stack and sell it in smaller quantities, but you also admit some items are not profitable enough to sell in small quantities? So there won't be "Walmart-type" players who will offer small quantities of these items and the market for those items will stagnate, which is why we need an option to allow purchasing of partial stacks.
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