Quote Originally Posted by Geobryn View Post
yes, we have the option, but its implementation is so retarded its not even funny, and the price editing ...
for example if you have 20 orders and want to change price of the bottom 5, you have to scroll down adjust price, it will scroll up so you have to again scroll down adjust price etc etc etc ..
the ability to check "sell as stack/stack only" just makes the process of setting up(and adjusting price of) multiple orders easy in one click and also it clears the listing of such orders on the market as you will see 1 order instead of 20 from one guy
why would you not want it ?
Lets go slow, by scroll down I assume you mean glancing your finger against the scroll wheel for a half of a second? Eventhough it going back to top seems like a bug, it also makes sense as a mechanic to make people 'give up' on being ruthless price cutters.

For me I do not have the problem with the moment it takes, but the real reason I dont want it, is because its overly complicated. You make it seem so whimsically fixing, yet it would have devastating effects on the market.

even stack sellers could benefit from it, if there would be one more checkbox(or maybe radio button) to set stack size, you could set up 20 orders of 5 in one click ....the limit of 20 orders per retainer doesn't even have to change i think, by easing the process of setting up/managing orders would promote selling in smaller stacks which is what ppl in this thread wants
atm only the "M"s who like the clicking/scrolling hell are doing that :P
I really do not even remember what we were discussing, last I was in this thread it was "I want to buy ONE from a stack". This is what I assure you is harmful and I refuse to allow it into the game.

Quote Originally Posted by Wulfies View Post
Can you please let me know how to sell my 31 Electrum ores, my 12 Raptor hides, and my 14 Cobalt ingots as individual pieces?

This I COULD do in 1.0 using 3 of my 16 (see with less spots, I am able to sell more than what I am able to in 2.0) avail slots on my retainer
Wulfies, I have 40 retainer slots. This is near accurate what are currently in them-

Note that all gear will be HQ unless noted, I rarely sell RQs accept for militia SB farming.

Goblin Long Sword x 11 (Varying prices based of the varying melds I did, 8,888-14,999)

Goblin Scim x 7 (5,555-9,999) [Goblin stuff, believe it or not, has made me a solid 40-50% of my money. They sell almost completely out over night, yet DO NOT do so if I set greedy prices considering im the only one doing them daily. Be fair and become profitable]

Obelisk (777,777)

Heavy Darksteel Chest (799,999)

Heavy Darksteel legs (799,999)

Random Militia Off Hand Tools (22,222)

RQ Darksteel Nugget varying stacks:

1 (2,999 per)
5 (2,222 per)
10 (1,999 per)
15 (1,777 per)
20 (1,555 per)
99 (1,234 per)

I usually use DST nugs to fill in the rest of my slots when I go to bed. So each day for at least the passed 3 weeks, I log on to an average of 350k, and 10-25 empty retainer slots, of which I either craft more stuff, or sell varying stacks of stuff with. How are you not doing this? Are all 40 of your slots full for days on end?? You're doing it wrong then and I promise you the system isnt broken because you are constantly full on retainer space. The market is designed to let people specialize in specific markets, 40 slots is MORE then enough to do that properly.

Even so, ill offer a tip I used early on crafting, found a friend who doesnt use ANY of his 40 slots (I know him IRL, that helps the trust). I mailed him the items and gave a price to list and each day the amount to lower it by until it reaches its value. Then just sell it to the vendor. Keep 20%.

He made 250k roughly in the 3-4 days we did this. I stopped because I decided LOWER end ITEMS and LOTS of them, were no longer worth my time or skill level.

I want more retainers for those times I bump out 50+ items, but I dont really think we should get them. It would hurt more then help.

For the sake of argument, lets say you wanted this Wrapped Hawksbeak Hammer (link to the XIVDB and you can see what it takes to make this.)
Now, in order to make this I will need a 40+ botanist, 40+ miner, 45+ Blacksmith, 35+ Leatherworker, 41+ Alchemist, ?? Fisher (sorry have not leveled fisherman yet,) +some Dow/DoM high enough to kill the piggies. This isn't even the 1 star militia item that need min control/craftmanship to even attempt.

Now, I've done this, thankfully I had alot of the raw mats so it only took me about 10 mins of trying to HQ to the sub-mats and building the final product (75% chance to HQ and it didnt hq ) If I had to farm, this would have taken me about an hour or 2, most of that time woudl be spentin running around and not really "seeing more of the game," I am out trying to avoid monsters/getting killed.
That is why it is so important we do not ruin all those player's jobs in this game. If each one of those people took 5 minutes to aquire the items needed, then it would be healthy if they all got about 500gil for their time.

Buying ONE item off of a stack will forever destroy most of those "busy bees" who just made that item possible. Only the ONE guy, who uses his keyboard to macro it, will sell it and TONS of it at 199 per. Now not a single person will want to go out and farm ever, it just wont be worth the time. New players will never sell their random goods, get a feel for the market/economy, until they start farming Tomes for crafters.

I implore you to think about this and realize how important it is this silly mechanic NEVER gets put in. If you cant think logically, graciously bow out to those who can.

Quote Originally Posted by Felix7007 View Post
Ok do some math. Are you ready for this? if you sold 12 eggs, 20 cookies and 100 crystals one at a time, you would need 132 retainer slots. YOU ONLY HAVE 40 TO SELL WITH. So no, in fact you can't go ahead and sell them individually if you wanted to.
He would only need 3 slots, cause he would just sell them as stacks. The guy above did the same thing... Some weird argument of "How do I sell everything individually!?!?".

YOU DO NOT, that is how. Thats not how the game was designed. Or if you do, which is a very valid approach and MANY MANY smart market players do so, you can do 40 at a time.

Manage your time, manage your retainers, manage your costs, and swim in your profits.

The idea posed in this thread has been thoroughly declined by the forum player base, even if it wasnt just a post and something that would get dev attention (it isnt), it still will NEVER see the light of day.

"BECAUSE I WANT IT", isnt good enough to even discuss why it should be elevated beyond a tedious conversation.