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  1. #311
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    Salem_Rain's Avatar
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    Salem Rain
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sabaoth View Post
    How...is this thread still running strong?
    Quote Originally Posted by Subucnimorning View Post
    Clearly because of jesus.
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  2. #312
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    Mikedizzy's Avatar
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    Rain Arrows
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by traja View Post
    So imbalance is fine because you can just play with people who don't care about performance? To me that is ridiculous but of course everyone is free to have their own opinion. But if that is truly the position you hold then why would you oppose changes? If class performance makes no difference to you shouldn't you be completely neutral on the subject? I mean nerfs won't affect you at all so why go through the effort of opposing them?
    I am opposing because I think that nerfing BARD is wrong and not necessary...what is there not to get???
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    Server: BEHEMOTH
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    Playing since Beta phase 3

  3. #313
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    Ryock's Avatar
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    Samantha Kilweign
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Nerf? Perhaps, yeah. But if bard got one, it could be pretty minor to make sure it was on level with the other classes. If(stressing the if part) SE were to nerf or change bard, I think one simple change would be fine. Simply force the character to stay put until its animation finishes with the attack. This would force bard to move more and not be so free to constantly do whatever they liked while moving. If you were forced to stay put until the attack's animation finished, I think that would go a long way. I could be wrong, but the biggest thing I see a lot of people complain about is how they can move and attack so freely while melee and casters have to be careful with how they perform their actions.
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  4. #314
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    Moesugi's Avatar
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    Q'bi Ary
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    Nerf? etc.
    Nerf one class just because they perform a little better in PvE is a retard way to do in a game.

    You can try looking at 1st world Lich King by Paragon, all raid were constantly moving behind the boss, and yet they were fine.

    The problem doesn't come from the class, it come from the poor boss design SE have made and their ridiculous server. As of now, bosses in this game are hugely in rDPS favor.
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  5. #315
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    Eckoh's Avatar
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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Moesugi View Post
    Nerf one class just because they perform a little better in PvE is a retard way to do in a game.

    You can try looking at 1st world Lich King by Paragon, all raid were constantly moving behind the boss, and yet they were fine.

    The problem doesn't come from the class, it come from the poor boss design SE have made and their ridiculous server. As of now, bosses in this game are hugely in rDPS favor.
    they really do not favor ranged... they simply do not grossly favor bad players which is what the QQ brigade wants. They want LFR style wow where anyone can derp their way though all content and get everything without ever having to understand their class let alone understand a raid mechanic.
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  6. #316
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    Merceus's Avatar
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    Character
    Mog Moxi
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Nerf bard? YES.
    Nerf bards to where BARDS are a completely different, instrument weilding, song channeling class that doesn't use a bow and is more musically based. Would love that nerf. Bowharps are OP.

    As far as them being strong I can see it. Mage's Ballad and Army's Paeon pretty much does away with needing to use resource management judgement and it's easily the most mobile class just because there is no reason NOT to move at all times. ('sides songs)
    Would rather if they had the old CNJ subclass requirements though. Barchers are fun and stuff but HEALING barchers would be more fun. /digress

    TL;DR - OP PLS NERF, then buff again because being nerfed feels bad, man.
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  7. #317
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    neoreturn's Avatar
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    Neo Anderson
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Moesugi View Post
    Nerf one class just because they perform a little better in PvE is a retard way to do in a game.

    You can try looking at 1st world Lich King by Paragon, all raid were constantly moving behind the boss, and yet they were fine.

    The problem doesn't come from the class, it come from the poor boss design SE have made and their ridiculous server. As of now, bosses in this game are hugely in rDPS favor.
    Na, We have 3 ranged DPS, I don't see other two have big advantage like bard does. Overall melee dps need a small buff and bard need a small tuning to avoid op.
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  8. #318
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    Leiron's Avatar
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    Haeen Kazerith
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Bard: Guys. I am not broken. Just because I can deliver full DPS on the move, and without being interrupted, and at the same time providing great utility, does not mean I am in anyway over powered. Sure I am the only rDPS that isnt interrupted by movement, an sure my overall DPS is just as good if not better than other rDPS and most mDPS, but that does not mean I need to be tuned.
    Just because I suffer no drawbacks compared to any other rDPS class does not mean I need to be nerfed.
    Its bad balance for the game if you nerf me.
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  9. #319
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    RonPierce's Avatar
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    Sikare Whitewind
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    Na, We have 3 ranged DPS, I don't see other two have big advantage like bard does. Overall melee dps need a small buff and bard need a small tuning to avoid op.
    You don't think an AoE 30 second sleep is an advantage of playing a BLK at all? o.O
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  10. #320
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    Haeen Kazerith
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    The AoE sleep breaks on damage.
    Weakness to strengths.
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