another healer role class

[Shikiseki]

well we're still missing the mace weapon type
I could imagine another healing class that branches off to Time Mage (support buff-healer type and other crazy time utility spells) and Green Mage (support debuff-healer and other rare status ailments spells).

[Valiant]

well we're still missing the mace weapon type
I could imagine another healing class that branches off to Time Mage (support buff-healer type and other crazy time utility spells) and Green Mage (support debuff-healer and other rare status ailments spells).

As i stated earlier Green mage was a rarely seen class... i think tactics only... to make a green mage would be reduntant if they made a red mage. In every true RPG (in other words non-strat games like tactics) Red Mage always got most WHM and BLM skills mainly all the buff and debuff skills with good enough healing and caster damage. I much rather see a class that has been used since the first FF than a class hardly seen. Red mage should also be forced (since it is considered a jack of all trades) to wear the appropriate gear for what you want it to do since it would be seriously OP to let it heal and cause both physical and magic damage without altering stats and gear.

[Belandomolando]

As i stated earlier Green mage was a rarely seen class... i think tactics only... to make a green mage would be reduntant if they made a red mage. In every true RPG (in other words non-strat games like tactics) Red Mage always got most WHM and BLM skills mainly all the buff and debuff skills with good enough healing and caster damage. I much rather see a class that has been used since the first FF than a class hardly seen. Red mage should also be forced (since it is considered a jack of all trades) to wear the appropriate gear for what you want it to do since it would be seriously OP to let it heal and cause both physical and magic damage without altering stats and gear.

It'd be smarter to make the Red Mage a tank Fencer --> Red Mage and BLM 15 Sub

[CornetEspoir]

Well I said a new stance nothing like cleric stance just have dex switch with mind and not get the reduced healing but in return you do crappy damage so you would only use the stance during party play to heal effeciently

[Valiant]

It'd be smarter to make the Red Mage a tank Fencer --> Red Mage and BLM 15 Sub

Red Mage was never designed to be a tank type class... but I have seen Blue Mages tank in 11 which is why I put Blue and Red in the same class for job development. Blue would be a heavy caster based tank maybe close to what war is now so it could DD (since war looks like it can do both well) as well while Red would heal and DD

[Valiant]

unless as a pug/dancer it can pull a base healing spell cure/physick plus damage reduction spells and and buffs from the other healing classes I can't see it as anything more than a support coming off of pug.

[Rissy]

Red Mages are obviously better off as support/melee damage dealers in a game like this. They probably deserve an underpowered, instant-cast, melee combo-finisher AOE Heal (and cross-class CNJ), but other than that, they shouldn't really take a healer role. They can have some party buffs though. I envision a melee damage dealer Fencer (with Intelligence being their weapon damage stat) with a few damage spells that have a chance to be instant cast triggered by melee combos.

[Belandomolando]

Red Mages are obviously better off as support/melee damage dealers in a game like this. They probably deserve an underpowered, instant-cast, melee combo-finisher AOE Heal (and cross-class CNJ), but other than that, they shouldn't really take a healer role. They can have some party buffs though. I envision a melee damage dealer Fencer (with Intelligence being their weapon damage stat) with a few damage spells that have a chance to be instant cast triggered by melee combos.

That's one of my main contentions, they will not make a Red Mage who can both DPS and heal, not going to happen. They had the opportunity with SCH, they are also a BLM and WHM class.

FFXIV version of Support is the BRD right now. So just how much support would the RDM have?

[Belandomolando]

Red Mage was never designed to be a tank type class... but I have seen Blue Mages tank in 11 which is why I put Blue and Red in the same class for job development. Blue would be a heavy caster based tank maybe close to what war is now so it could DD (since war looks like it can do both well) as well while Red would heal and DD

Who designed the FFXIV Red Mage ?? Where? Does it exist?

The reason I said that, Yoshi and many people see the Healer and Tank Pop being low (development team). One way to make more Tanks would be to create one in the role of an Iconic Class such as Red Mage (the Look, etc). It'd also give some lee way to give RDMs some "heal"/WHM spells and some BLM Mdps skills, to give it the BLM/WHM feel it is suppose to have. The FFXI RDM and SMN etc is going to stay there, it's not here, and it's a different game.

Blue Mages have been tanks, healers, DPS, CC, etc throughout FF. They could go with the FFX version and slap it on Lancer.

[ApolloGenX]

I assume at some point the Conj + Thaum option will be RDM.

They really need to fix the scholar issues before making another healer, imo.

However, I do like the idea of a healer that gives group proc buffs and weapon enchants....and the armor... so stylish..

Oh, how I would like to be able to give group lifestealing procs or elemental procs, while dpsing... and being able to heal... and wearing a fabulous hat....