BIS gear should not come from just one form of content

[Alzelia]

I'm of the opinion that the best gear should be gated behind the hardest content. Else, what is the incentive to do the hardest content? Crafting isn't hard. Farming tomes/seals isn't hard. Why should these produce better gear than something that is hard?

I don't think you quite get what I'm saying. What I want is for someone to HAVE to beat the hardest content to get one of the BIS items. People would do the hardest content to get the BIS body pieces or weapons or whatever. I think that crafting and other future additional content would provide less important BIS gear like jewelry.

[nekochen]

I'm of the opinion that the best gear should be gated behind the hardest content. Else, what is the incentive to do the hardest content? Crafting isn't hard. Farming tomes/seals isn't hard. Why should these produce better gear than something that is hard?

I can see where OP is coming from.
There are other MMOs that splits up the BiS to different raid dungeons or raid that drops recipes which crafts BiS accessories/jewelry whatever you want to call it. We only have one at the moment so it's not feasible.

[Arcturius]

I don't think you quite get what I'm saying. What I want is for someone to HAVE to beat the hardest content to get one of the BIS items. People would do the hardest content to get the BIS body pieces or weapons or whatever. I think that crafting and other future additional content would provide less important BIS gear like jewelry.

He got what you are saying, and he still thinks that's wrong. All BEST items jewelry or not is behind hardest content. Just because he didn't agree with you doesn't mean he didn't understand you. You do not get any bis piece if you don't complete a challenge.

[Reiterpallasch]

Welcome to modern MMOs post WoW where raid gear is always the best, enjoy your stay.

What does WoW have to do with anything? Or was it to reference that they have craftable equivalents to normal mode raid gear? Not for every slot, but there are always a few.

[Zumi]

Getting all the crafts to 50 is pretty easy to do because with leves you can get a craft to 50 every day. There is no way that it should make BiS gear. I have every craft to 50 and made a lot of money selling intermediate gear ilvl 55 stuff for about 175% mark up. I make 20-30k at a time but it adds up to millions in the long run and my stuff sells fast because its mid range gear.

Best gear in the game should come from the hardest raid not crafting like it is now its perfectly fine.

Crafting has its place as making starter gear for when you start your raid journey. It also makes lots of gil even with not making the best gear in the game.

[Cousinjimmy]

Best gear in the game should come from the hardest raid not crafting like it is now its perfectly fine.

The best gear does come from the hardest content -- atm BCoB. Some T5 weapons are the BiS over Relic +1 -- namely the healer weapons. Most of the Allagan gears are decent and some pieces are BiS that cannot be obtained elsewhere (Tank body, Caster Feet). On the other hand, some of the Allagan gears are absolutely trash; some very specific slots atm don't have any cookie-cutter stats in iLvL90 gears. (Sch head & feet)

We will see what Crystal Tower brings to the game.

[Crescent_Dusk]

Currently, there is no best in slot gear for battle classes that is crafted. Granted, HQ heavy darksteel items full of materia are marginally better than similiar dark light items. However. Darksteel items are Much Much harder and more expensive to produce. Then on top of that there is drops from bahamut's coil that are better than darksteel. Because of this, many people, like myself, feel that the time and effort we spent on crafting and gathering wasnt worth the rewards
Now I also understand the other point of view."If someone could buy the best gear, then many people will just buy Gil from gilsellers to buy gear." And "if people can buy the best gear, what's the point of farming dungeons?"

I believe that the problem is that the best in slot gear is only obtained from one form of content. If all of the BIS gear comes from one source of content, then all other content becomes marginalized. I believe that in order to obtain the BIS gear, one should have to participate in multiple different contents, instead of spamming the same dungeon over and over.

For example, the BIS gear for a blm would come be:

Main: Relic obtained from a long quest
Body: obtained from tomes
Pants: bought with GC seals
Belt: crafted with materia
Ring: dropped from a primal

And so on. This would provide an incentive to actually use all the major forms of content in this game.

The difference is you're rolling in money while the guy doing the actual hard, coordinated content that takes careful planning and execution is making zero gil in profit. In fact, he's losing wealth to repairs.

The guy who is doing Bahamut, unless he sells runs with his guild or levels a craft, will not be able to afford in-game housing, and currently he can't even afford to gear his alts efficiently in Vanya gear because each piece is close to one million gil.

[Alzelia]

Looking back on my OP, I realize that I really should re-write my argument and start a new thread. I lost focus for my argument and failed to convey the message I actually intended to send.

To sum up what I was actually trying to say: I believe that Best in Slot gear should be obtained through multiple different forms of content. Currently, to the best of my knowledge, all of the Best in Slot gear is obtained through just one form of content: Behemoth. I believe FFXIV would be a better game if Best in Slot gear came from a variety of dungeons and raids and Primals and other content. (I would love to see crafting and the economy as one of these sources, but I can see this causing a lot of issues.) If the Best in Slot gear only comes from one source, then there really is no incentive to pursue any other content. I'd rather have some variety in my gaming instead of grinding the same dungeon over and over.

[Evangela]

It's good. crafters are selling lv70 gears for millions of gil but we can get better gears from dungeons.

seeing greedy merchants suffering is my happiness.

[Kincard]

I would really like to see things like the highest endgame raids giving out BOP mats that let you craft some BIS gear, at least equivalent to what you'd other get dropped from there.

Some variety in armor choices would be nice...although I suppose that won't really matter as much when they introduce the vanity gear system.