BIS gear should not come from just one form of content

[dontcare]

I'm of the opinion that the best gear should be gated behind the hardest content. Else, what is the incentive to do the hardest content? Crafting isn't hard. Farming tomes/seals isn't hard. Why should these produce better gear than something that is hard?

[Arcturius]

I'm of the opinion that the best gear should be gated behind the hardest content. Else, what is the incentive to do the hardest content? Crafting isn't hard. Farming tomes/seals isn't hard. Why should these produce better gear than something that is hard?

Exactly

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[Alzelia]

I'm of the opinion that the best gear should be gated behind the hardest content. Else, what is the incentive to do the hardest content? Crafting isn't hard. Farming tomes/seals isn't hard. Why should these produce better gear than something that is hard?

I don't think you quite get what I'm saying. What I want is for someone to HAVE to beat the hardest content to get one of the BIS items. People would do the hardest content to get the BIS body pieces or weapons or whatever. I think that crafting and other future additional content would provide less important BIS gear like jewelry.

[Arcturius]

I don't think you quite get what I'm saying. What I want is for someone to HAVE to beat the hardest content to get one of the BIS items. People would do the hardest content to get the BIS body pieces or weapons or whatever. I think that crafting and other future additional content would provide less important BIS gear like jewelry.

He got what you are saying, and he still thinks that's wrong. All BEST items jewelry or not is behind hardest content. Just because he didn't agree with you doesn't mean he didn't understand you. You do not get any bis piece if you don't complete a challenge.

[nekochen]

I'm of the opinion that the best gear should be gated behind the hardest content. Else, what is the incentive to do the hardest content? Crafting isn't hard. Farming tomes/seals isn't hard. Why should these produce better gear than something that is hard?

I can see where OP is coming from.
There are other MMOs that splits up the BiS to different raid dungeons or raid that drops recipes which crafts BiS accessories/jewelry whatever you want to call it. We only have one at the moment so it's not feasible.

[Alzelia]

Looking back on my OP, I realize that I really should re-write my argument and start a new thread. I lost focus for my argument and failed to convey the message I actually intended to send.

To sum up what I was actually trying to say: I believe that Best in Slot gear should be obtained through multiple different forms of content. Currently, to the best of my knowledge, all of the Best in Slot gear is obtained through just one form of content: Behemoth. I believe FFXIV would be a better game if Best in Slot gear came from a variety of dungeons and raids and Primals and other content. (I would love to see crafting and the economy as one of these sources, but I can see this causing a lot of issues.) If the Best in Slot gear only comes from one source, then there really is no incentive to pursue any other content. I'd rather have some variety in my gaming instead of grinding the same dungeon over and over.

[Uveck]

I'm of the opinion that the best gear should be gated behind the hardest content. Else, what is the incentive to do the hardest content? Crafting isn't hard.

Well, what about crafting something with a drop from the hardest content? Because your suggestion renders crafting useless for the most part. Most people started crafting because FF has a history of being able to craft gear that is comparable to end game drops. The best gear in the game should be obtained by someone who A. Raids the hardest dungeons and B. Has crafting leveled. Raids should drop great gear, but should drop items that allow you to craft even better gear.

There is no point to craft if you can just get the best gear in the game by grinding dungeons. Why would I craft and raid dungeons if all I have to do is raid dungeons. Most people will disagree with me simply because they don't want to have to craft and raid dungeons. But whatever this game is for children anyway.

[EikoCeuracanth]

Well, what about crafting something with a drop from the hardest content? Because your suggestion renders crafting useless for the most part. Most people started crafting because FF has a history of being able to craft gear that is comparable to end game drops. The best gear in the game should be obtained by someone who A. Raids the hardest dungeons and B. Has crafting leveled. Raids should drop great gear, but should drop items that allow you to craft even better gear.

It doesn't render crafting useless. Crafting has the ability to create entry level end game raiding gear. Keep BiS gear where it belongs gated behind real content. Crafters have enough ways to price gouge and make gold already.

When we see more end game content you'll see more diversity in gear, and I assume crafters will gain more recipes by the patch. We'll probably see ilvl 90 gear for crafters come 2.2.