BIS gear should not come from just one form of content

[Sunarie]

I would love to see a piece or two of best in slot gear come from crafting, but! I think the material for said item should drop from raids.

The item itself I don't really care if it's tradeable or not. I'm not a fan of forcing people to grind up crafting professions (which can be expensive if you don't have gathering, and tedious if you do) just for a BiS piece. I'd like to make sure for my free company. I realize this would mean people could "sell" the stuff... but really that's no different from buying runs, which people already do.

Editted to add: I would also settle for the current highest tier crafted sets to take less tomestones to actually craft so that they're on par with the cost for the Darklight set instead of way over. Basically I want crafting to be useful (whether it be gearing up alts, or making BiS gear). Let me make something I can wear for a while at end game!

[Johnist]

To be honest, you will need to compare the Allagan (BC Drops) with your Relic+1 / AF2+1 stuff to decide if they are worth it. They are roughly equal, with different stats, but some of the pieces are superior to your regular AF2+1 stuff. This will be made easier after the 11th when the Database gets merged into Lodestone, making it easier to search out items.

[Nihility]

i wouldn't say allagan armor is a problem so much as the massive lack of 70 and 80 content

really, outside of the 2 primal fights the game itself jumps from 60 content to 90 and pretty much everything in between is completely based around one thing, tomestone of philosophy. level 70 loot needs to start coming from level 70 sources instead of 50

[Uveck]

I'm of the opinion that the best gear should be gated behind the hardest content. Else, what is the incentive to do the hardest content? Crafting isn't hard.

Well, what about crafting something with a drop from the hardest content? Because your suggestion renders crafting useless for the most part. Most people started crafting because FF has a history of being able to craft gear that is comparable to end game drops. The best gear in the game should be obtained by someone who A. Raids the hardest dungeons and B. Has crafting leveled. Raids should drop great gear, but should drop items that allow you to craft even better gear.

There is no point to craft if you can just get the best gear in the game by grinding dungeons. Why would I craft and raid dungeons if all I have to do is raid dungeons. Most people will disagree with me simply because they don't want to have to craft and raid dungeons. But whatever this game is for children anyway.

[Mayrissa]

I agree with this. It baffles my mind that crafting is relatively worthless right now outside of armour pieces that still require you to farm Tomes endlessly to make and only become better than the AF+1 you'll be buying if you're lucky enough to get a successful quadra-meld. Crafters should be able to make something desirable, heck make those desirable pieces require items that can rarely drop from mobs in the new dungeons to at least keep people queuing and also gives some purpose to trash mobs. Or even follow the WoW route of making the more powerful forms of certain items (like belt/bracers/rings etc) only available through crafting, and add grinds to get those recipes.

Also, why not make the rewards from world FATEs slightly more enticing. The Behemoth and Odin stuff looks cool but statswise it's pretty blegh and will likely just gather dust on a retainer until Vanity slots come in.

The make some truly outrageously good items drop from the next tier of Binding Coil, to give people something to aspire toward. I don't know maybe the end boss can drop something to make Relic+2 or something.

[Klefth]

I totally agree that BiS gear shouldn't just come from grinding easy content. BUT the most lame part of this whole deal is not just the fact that it all comes from spamming that one dungeon - the most lame part, in my opinion, is the fact that it's mostly just bunched up on a vendor NPC for no reason whatsoever.

Why the heck would you put equipment emblematic of each job, that is also about on par with the best gear in the game, on a single vendor NPC that has them up for trade for easily obtainable trinkets? More so when their (much) lesser counterparts, the AF you get from job quests, are made out to be a big deal in their respective quests even though they aren't, yet these, which actually are pretty damn good, are all just bunched up on this one trader, who has an infinite supply of them for no apparent reason. What? Not only is that lame as hell gameplay-wise (because the only way to get the currency to obtain them is to spam an easy dungeon constantly - and stomach all the waiting due to a most blatantly obvious time sink), but it is also lame as hell lore-wise - lore breaking, even. Why?

[BlueMage]

The current BIS accessories are crafted/melded.

And you want crafted items better than the highest tier content? Why even DO the content if you have gear better anything else in the game then?

[Ruisu]

Why?

You need to clear the hardest dungeon that has yet to be legitimately cleared to have the best gear in the game. Unless you're dumb and are buying the AF+1 instead of getting your relic+1. Then you really shouldn't be talking. I do think that the Relic +1 is too easy to get.

[Klefth]

You need to clear the hardest dungeon that has yet to be legitimately cleared to have the best gear in the game. Unless you're dumb and are buying the AF+1 instead of getting your relic+1. Then you really shouldn't be talking. I do think that the Relic +1 is too easy to get.

First off, feel free to check my lodestone before making assumptions on my gear choices and whatnot. Secondly, I've no idea where the bolded part came from, as in no way I've said relic +1 was hard to get (or anything even remotely related to them). Actually, part of a complaint of mine, which for some reason got deleted and netted me a 10 day ban, was the fact that relic +1, which are about on par with the best weapons in the game, only takes waiting, just like the AF2 pieces do. I find it extremely lame that all those things are simply bunched up on a vendor NPC, and suggested that they should instead be placed in lore-friendly content.

[Arcturius]

The current BIS accessories are crafted/melded.

Actually BiS accessories are allagan and mythology pieces.