SQUARE-ENIX, remember not to marginalise crafters

[Kuroguma]

So you play a Gladiator and want to fight NMs with your friends, cool. Have fun getting a +3 weapon or armor drop from the NMs.

You are right having +anything is a problem, thanks for pointing that out. So you don't remember blue box fever and the inflation it caused during holidays?

[AdaraaKatsumi]

I still don't understand how a crafter doing the main story line effects anyone else?

Does it hurt anyone?

Does it effect the people around them?

No. It effect no one in any way except the person playing that character... and why shouldn't a person who enjoys crafting be able to enjoy the main story line? Why should we force people to level either a DoW or DoM to be able to see the story line, especially when it doesn't directly effect anyone else playing in any way.

I'm sure many will get around to leveling a DoM or DoW at some point, but let them do it at their own pace and when they wish too... no one should be forced to do anything they don't want to do before they want to do it. Thats the point of a MMO, to develop a character the way they want too... not the way the rest of the players FEEL they should.

I agree with you that the main storyline has nothing to do with whatever class someone is. People are just whining that the game is trying to balance out a need for battle, craft, and gathering classes and they somehow feel that they are entitled to say something along the lines such as, "My archer is more important than a weaver." That is the thought of someone who is being an elitist jerk and will always find a way to point out the smallest thing in the game and cry, "The sky is falling."

[AdaraaKatsumi]

You are right having +anything is a problem, thanks for pointing that out. So you don't remember blue box fever and the inflation it caused during holidays?

I do remember the blue box fever but that is not the point of this thread. People are complaining that crafters should have a smaller role in game, which they can speak their opinion and cry about it, but instead of whining about it how about they suggest an alternative in the role of the crafter. Crying is not going to help their cause.

[Gracious]

In my opinion, the thread poster using huge letters sux and I hope they will do away with the use of HUGE letters on the forum. There is no need for it. As far as crafters go, it would probably be in the best interest to everyone to do away with crafting and gathers as a class so that all missions henceforth would be on the DoW/DoM jobs. There is no way SE can equal all the classes. I understand the thought behind making them on the same level's but it's just not going to work here. They will have to gimp down all missions just to make sure DoL/DoH can do them.

[darkstarpoet1]

In my opinion, the thread poster using huge letters sux and I hope they will do away with the use of HUGE letters on the forum. There is no need for it. As far as crafters go, it would probably be in the best interest to everyone to do away with crafting and gathers as a class so that all missions henceforth would be on the DoW/DoM jobs. There is no way SE can equal all the classes. I understand the thought behind making them on the same level's but it's just not going to work here. They will have to gimp down all missions just to make sure DoL/DoH can do them.

you mean like they nerfed the nm's because some people were not good enough at their classes to do them? no it would not be in the best interest of everyone....it may be for you, but not others which means not everyone.

[Gracious]

you mean like they nerfed the nm's because some people were not good enough at their classes to do them? no it would not be in the best interest of everyone....it may be for you, but not others which means not everyone.

I didn't say anything about NM's.... Have you thought about doing gimped storeyline missions etc etc to appease the crafter and gathering classes? I guess that doesn't bother you.

[Nuru]

Actually, there should be rare colored-dye that allows for more fluent colors in certain gears. I think that would be pretty cool. Rare colors to any rank gear will call for some really nice bazaar sales, etc. That would keep people re-visiting certain NMs and stuff, but the downside is that this will also draw in RMT... Crap, a cool idea gone to waste. ;-;

[Tezz_Xivectro]

Crafters will NEVER be considered real classes. It's a joke.

I would go as far as not even allowing people to start the game as a crafter. It promotes wrongful expectations to newcomers.

Crafting is still essential to the game & economy.
It's up to SE to focus on keeping it relevant BUT without shoving it down everyone's throats at the same time.

[darkstarpoet1]

I didn't say anything about NM's.... Have you thought about doing gimped storeyline missions etc etc to appease the crafter and gathering classes? I guess that doesn't bother you.

all mobs in this game are gimped not just missions. the other mobs the crafters do not get to fight against. that, in turn, means everything is gimped and only a few things can be said anything about the crafting classes. the rest were nerfed because people cannot play their classes so they had to make the entire game on easy mode. i am sorry, but i feel more joy that i am getting my weaver close to 50 than i did either of my battle classes.

[Ennvy]

Whats the point of crafting at this point? Since everyone has like 3-4 craft lvled where they can either repair/make stuff for themselves... On my server alot of the prices has drop alot... only the vendors are getting rich lol.