The poor RMT's...

[Rizon]

Living under a rock?

Anonymous PSN Hackers were jailed. International agencies worked together to arrest them in different countries.

I probably didn't make myself clear enough. The incident you are referring to was a mass hack of all accounts on the Play Station Network and as such received immediate attention. What I am referring to is individual game accounts being hacked so that they can be used for various RMT activities. Law Enforcement will not expend the resources needed to investigate each occurrence. The only way is for the gaming companies to gather as much information (including IP Addresses) as they can concerning these accounts and forward it to Law Enforcement in the hopes that action can be taken. I am not sure that the companies want to devote the time end energy to do that so they just handle it in game.

[HiirNoivl]

RMT site will just get a few more copies of FFIV and make new mules. I'm not knocking SE efforts, but this is a tempory set back at best.

Hmmm... well if they blocked bank accounts than they have routing numbers. If someone with the same Routing numbers creates dozens of accounts and mules, it wouldn't be hard to catch them and block them again immediately. I seriously doubt that someone could move their business to an entirely different bank. Not only that, if they use something like Paypal, SE can work with Paypal to be sure that certain user accounts are closed as well.

[Orsnoire]

You guys probably don't realize it's usually people from 3rd world countries where 20 american dollars can go a long way. You guys seem to think they are somehow hacking the game and selling gill to people, they are probably spending more time in the game farming with crafting classes or gathering classes than anyone else then when they accumulate enough gil through legit means (sometimes not so legit if using 3rd party software to bot) they just turn it around and sell it for real money that they use to put food on their table. If you really think of it, of all the crooked ways a young teen with no food and money could do (ie pornography/prostitution etc..) going into a game and exploiting the game economy for real money is probably the least hazardous alternative job they can do. That is just my 2 cents

Says the dude to justify buying gil

[Ed_N_Ants]

How did their bank accounts get banned? Unless I read that wrong. Unless the IRS and the Feds were involved I can't see their accounts getting banned, especially if they use paypal.

In order for them to sell the gil they have to have an account which means that they are under the in game user agreement which states that they cant sell in game, by doing so they violated the user agreement giving SE a legal reason to contact their financial institution and hault transactions until an investigation can be done... Financial institutions don't want to be sued so, they freeze the account...

[Felis]

Hmmm... well if they blocked bank accounts than they have routing numbers. If someone with the same Routing numbers creates dozens of accounts and mules, it wouldn't be hard to catch them and block them again immediately. I seriously doubt that someone could move their business to an entirely different bank. Not only that, if they use something like Paypal, SE can work with Paypal to be sure that certain user accounts are closed as well.

With bank accounts they don't mean accounts on real banks, but game accounts where all the gil are.
In short, the RMTs lost all the gil.

[HiirNoivl]

With bank accounts they don't mean accounts on real banks, but game accounts where all the gil are.
In short, the RMTs lost all the gil.

Oh Okay, I didn't see the edited op. It just goes to show that every report we make is making the game better. If you get a /tell or see a shout for RMT services please report! ^o^

[Shirai]

Hmmm... well if they blocked bank accounts than they have routing numbers. If someone with the same Routing numbers creates dozens of accounts and mules, it wouldn't be hard to catch them and block them again immediately. I seriously doubt that someone could move their business to an entirely different bank. Not only that, if they use something like Paypal, SE can work with Paypal to be sure that certain user accounts are closed as well.

The thing is, it is very easy to avoid those routes.
Most Asian RMT companies will just use their employees to make a new paypal/bank account and the whole operation is up and running again.
They'll just funnel enough money to the newly made account to pay for new codes, they probably won't even get past the trial period for subscription so that's no huge investment either.

And as many have experienced unfortunately, a good amount of their gil comes from compromised accounts as well and I can tell you already that S-E definitely did not get all of those so the smarter companies should already have a little stockpile of gil lying around again.
Don't believe me? You'll just have to check today's posts and count the "Help, I think I've been hacked" topics that pop up besides the existing ones where people still post in.

With bank accounts they don't mean accounts on real banks, but game accounts where all the gil are.
In short, the RMTs lost all the gil.

I think he's talking about tracing back to real bank accounts, but as I have said above, the smarter companies can easily work around that.

[Skullcrusher]

To all those that actually feel " sorry " for these parasites...
Do you really like seeing ENDLESS walls of orange text upon entering the cities?
So much that its an endless loop? Its beyond spam, its infinite spam.
DO you really like getting tells every 5 minutes clogging up your chat box?

Ive had to turn my tells off, i may turn them back on again now.

I really like ff 14, but if i was to quit, 1 of the big reasons would have een from all the rmt spam. Those idiots are actually ruining the game for everybody

[Shaddix]

Sorry for my sarcastic reply. But yes, Selling virtual currency for real life money is illegal and goes against the TOS and EULA we ALL agree to upon playing the game. I don't fault you for not reading it, no one does. But it is there.

RMT is not illegal. Being against the ToS is not the same thing as being illegal by the law of the state.

And chinese RMT do not have other options, it isn't like they are Americans who actually have opportunities. If they don't play the whole time they are awake, they won't have a meal or a place to sleep at night. You need to educate yourself before saying things like this.

[Shaddix]

To all those that actually feel " sorry " for these parasites...
Do you really like seeing ENDLESS walls of orange text upon entering the cities?
So much that its an endless loop? Its beyond spam, its infinite spam.
DO you really like getting tells every 5 minutes clogging up your chat box?

Ive had to turn my tells off, i may turn them back on again now.

I really like ff 14, but if i was to quit, 1 of the big reasons would have een from all the rmt spam. Those idiots are actually ruining the game for everybody

I don't give a crap about orange text. I care far more about the human beings living in horrible conditions where the only way they have to survive is to sell video game money. Screw your inconvenience, someone not starving to death is far more important.