A Grave State Of Affairs

[DarkTrinity06]

*Players screaming at other players freshly turned 50 for watching the cutscenes within Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium.

Skip them and watch them at the Inn. I did that, didnt want to burden the people that were carrying me for the first time.

Or other players can not be complete idiots and forum groups on their own server here players wish to rush through those two if they are just going yell at those who want to view the cutscenes during their runs. I was lucky and didn't have groups in the DF mind people watching them if they didn't see them. I would of just left anyway though if someone was yelling at me for something like that though lol. Let the trash have to wait for a a replacement or find a new group.

[Blaste]

Heh, no matter how many times I see these topics it still makes me grin, its like watching two kids fighting at the school park, you don't care who wins but you just wanna see the outcome, I used to get annoyed that I couldn't watch the cutscenes cause people wanted to speed through everything, then someone informed me "Hey you can watch them in your inn you know..", that one bit of information turned the tide for me, I don't mind speedruns at all cause I'm always chatting it up with my FC in raidcall, we all have a goal and thanks to this I'm 2 pieces into my DL gear. But I mean its up to the individual I suppose, once the kicking feature is fully implemented making those 5-6 people wait while you enjoy your cutscene could result in you being kicked from the group once they get the feature working. But hey like I said its up to you, I'm sure people don't mind waiting another 20-30 min in the DF to find another group only to repeat the same process and find themselves kicked again.

[Zantetsuken]

This all comes down to two groups of people who each play FFXIV for very different reasons.

1) The (FF) RPG-er. Plays for enjoyment. These players tend to value things like adventure, escapism, lore, immersion, danger, exploration, storylines, aesthetics, music, friendly socializing, cooperation, harmony, etc.

2) The Powergamer. Plays for esteem. These players tend to value things like efficiency, server firsts, the best loot, grinding, being part of an elite group, PVP, exploits, 3rd party tools (ie parsers), flashy gear, perfect runs, etc.

These aren't exclusive, mind you. Players are all over the spectrum. But in my experience, the more 'type 2' a player is, the more likely that player is going to be a total asshat

Note: Japan might be the exception as people are generally more polite there and less likely to be vocal with their complaints. This may be why Yoshi-P didn't realize the problems that would arise from building this game to attract type-2s.

[ZohnoReecho]

If they add the vote to kick without a first timer protection that will be totally abused.

[KogaDrake]

Ok, here is my opinions on this:

In the last three days I've seen...

*Players screaming at other players freshly turned 50 for watching the cutscenes within Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium.

Watch em and they can kill while you watch or they can wait. they are so easy they dont realy need you and if they continue on it does not hold up the group that long. Further, if your that bothered by suck stupid actions of people, you need to thicken your skin if this is the type of game your going to play.

*Players berating other players for queuing for Amdapor Keep without full Darklight gear and relic weapon.

tell the ashats to make a premade group if thats what they want. Once again, if this bothers you, thicken your skin and get some self confidence. The reason they want relic is so its faster and when you go into braindead grind mode your DPS is still reasonable. if your not fully geared, your not at the point of so much AK you cant stand it and button mash, so your DPS may be higher then those geared players who button mash till AK is done.

*Players refusing to group with other players for the purpose of Fate groups because they are not a "AoE Class"

Well, there are plenty of FATE groups who dont require AOE. AOE is better and will always be preferred with the current exp system, deal with it and join one of the other 10 FATE groups which likely dont have this requirement

*Players mocking other players for not knowing all fight mechanics on their first attempt at dungeons.

Only time I have ever seen this is when you dont know and dont say something. Say you dont know and we will tell you mechanics, and if you mess up once or twice no on will care. Now if you mess up the same thing we tell you about in the mechanic time and time again, then maybe you will get yelled at some

*Players constantly demeaning other players in /shout for asking simple questions regarding quests, dungeons, or otherwise.

are there not the type of players that you just blacklist? its basically one of the reasons why the game has a blacklist

*Players harassing other players until they leave groups because they aren't geared to the like of that party member.

well, this is why people have FC/LS/friend list. group up with people you know or now and then you will find this. We all know currently there is too much of this going around, so if you are new to 50 and not geared, take advantage of your FC/LS/.. to avoid them, just as they should be to avoid the new/undergeared they dont want to run with

Things will not change till vote kick, gear score requirements, MVP system and others are added (2.1), and once we have that we can start to see they game change a bit.

[Whoopie_Pie]

If this is how you "play" make yourself a favour and quit before you burn yourself.

^ This.

Videogames are supposed to be fun, not a pissing contest or a race to see who can burn through the most dungeons in less time and get the best gear and "shinies". I've got enough to deal with outside of game to stress over yet more petty stuff in-game. I play for fun. I play for story. I shall watch my cutscenes in full and not out-of-context like it would be at the inns. I will play at my pace; you may play at yours, we can all be happy. I will help other people who may be new if I have done the content before; it's how you learn. You get experience by experiencing (no way! *gasp* =o) And it's just not worth it to worry over virtual things.....you will eventually burn out, it just takes time. I've been there.

If there was a way to implant knowledge into every player's brain like in The Matrix we'd all be professionals at this game by now, lol. But, oh so boring that would be =)

[Phogg]

It's not surprising that the people who rage over people watching cut scenes in duty finder have no friends to help them avoid using duty finder.

[VahnValbosce]

People say "just find that good FC/freinds" well, for some of us that is quite difficult when trying to weed through the massive amount of bad eggs.

This is a good point, and there is no gaurantee that just by being in an FC that people will still treat you differently or nicely. It really has become a "Gang" mentality with guilds/fc's now in MMO's and the minute you step outside the guild mentality is the minute you get kicked or shunned just for trying to establish friendly behavior to the larger community.

[Zezlar]

*Players screaming at other players freshly turned 50 for watching the cutscenes within Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium.

Skip them and watch them at the Inn. I did that, didnt want to burden the people that were carrying me for the first time.

That was your choice, they are not meant to be skipped the first time. It completely ruins the atmosphere of the quest. The Inn was designed as tool to re-watch later, not to watch for the first time because some Jabroni can't wait a couple minutes.

[Fuz]

Related:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...is-has-to-stop.

For you people bullying newcomers to skip CS (or harassing for any other reason mentioned by the OP): You are terrible human beings and you disgust me.