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  1. #1
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    Fuz's Avatar
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    Fuz Rush
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    Cerberus
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    Fisher Lv 80

    This has to stop.

    So, I log and queue up for CM.
    Since I'm pretty much fed up with the place and want a smooth & fast run, I check for the ongoing runs to get over with it faster.
    A 3/5 opens.
    "Oh, cool, it's my lucky day".
    So, nothing to say, really smooth run... but I notice one tank seems unexperienced.
    Livia dies and one guy in the group says:
    "Now you can go watch the cutscenes in the room"
    "Oh I can watch them there? Cool"
    So I ask him "let me guess... have they bullied you into skipping them?" "yeah, pretty much, they said they didn't want to wait and that it was a speed run, so I had to skip them."
    Turns out that the poor guy was really interested in the story, but they abused and coerced him into skipping every cutscene.

    THIS. HAS. TO. STOP. NOW.

    I've seen this too many damn times.
    Stop bullying new people in DF, douchebags.
    You want a speed run? Put up your own group in /sh in Mor'dhona with 7 other people that want the same type of run.

    And for people new to the story instances... don't let them bully you if you care for the story. Ignore them, and watch your cutscenes... they can leave if they are so annoyed by a few minutes wait.
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    Last edited by Fuz; 10-03-2013 at 08:57 AM.

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    Roric Tyrefell
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
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  3. #3
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    Ebon Drake
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 50
    Archer/Bard.

    I'm watching the cut-scenes the first time I see them.

    I'll never cross the purple 'do not cross' line until I see everyone has finished watching cut-scenes.

    Don't like it? Leave
    Can run it without me? Cool, I'll wait outside the fight but I'm still needing on the gear that drops if I need it.
    Get angry and curse spewing foul language? Don't care, you can't call me anything worse than any of my ex's have so I just chuckle.

    I know I'm good at my class. I don't need your acceptance to be able to sleep at night.

    Maybe I'll go make a sandwich after I'm done with the cut-scene if you're really trying to be a prick. First person to leave is the only one that gets the penalty lol.
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  4. #4
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    Laiyenu Rae
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebon_Drake View Post
    Archer/Bard.

    I'm watching the cut-scenes the first time I see them.

    I'll never cross the purple 'do not cross' line until I see everyone has finished watching cut-scenes.

    Don't like it? Leave
    Can run it without me? Cool, I'll wait outside the fight but I'm still needing on the gear that drops if I need it.
    Get angry and curse spewing foul language? Don't care, you can't call me anything worse than any of my ex's have so I just chuckle.

    I know I'm good at my class. I don't need your acceptance to be able to sleep at night.

    Maybe I'll go make a sandwich after I'm done with the cut-scene if you're really trying to be a prick. First person to leave is the only one that gets the penalty lol.
    Pretty much how you should handle it.

    I'm kinda confused about why half groups Que for speedruns make a full group Christ you only need 1 tank.
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    ValeriaShadowborn's Avatar
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    Valeria Shadowborn
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Because making 7 other people stand around for a total of like 20 minutes while you watch cutscenes that you can watch elsewhere is totaly not being a prick either....nope not at all
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    Faith Aeternam
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    Famfrit
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuz View Post
    You want a speed run? Put up your own group in /sh in Mor'dhona with 7 other people that want the same type of run.
    Considering players interested in watching cutscenes are the great minority, it makes much more sense that they form their own group. Utilitarianism and all.
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    Kaji Nari
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    Sargatanas
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    Rogue Lv 76
    You guys can tell people to watch cut-scenes in the inn all you want, but lets face it they're not nearly as immersive to watch if you skip and watch them later.

    If you want speedruns, join premades. If you're going to que DF for it, don't be a prick about it if its someone elses first time.
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  8. #8
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    BlackShroudMercs's Avatar
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    Talion Dracht
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    Adamantoise
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    When you use the duty finder, you "agree" to run with whoever they pick for you. This is based on the concept of being able to run content even while lacking friends/FC members.

    You do NOT get to make the rules for said instance, you do NOT decide who watches what, or how long they sit there, hell according to SE they can sit there the whole time not moving and that's "OK".

    I don't agree with that, I think if you use the DF you also agree to do the run, but whatever, the point is...

    You don't make the rules, you don't decide who watches what or when, if you want speed runs..

    FORM A PREMADE GROUP FOOL!!

    Really? "Im gonna Q up and god help anyone I randomly meet that doesn't agree to do it MY way.."

    Get over yourselves..
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  9. #9
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    Ryios Locke
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 68
    Solution:

    Add a "Watch Cutscene" Check box to the duty finder next to "Join runs in progress" check box. If you uncheck that you only get paired with people who also unchecked it. Also for runs with it unchecked, cutscenes would not even show up, no option to skip them, they just don't exist with this run type.

    Problem with solution: people in que to watch cutscenes will likely wait a long time because 90% of the people running cm are doing it for philo speed runs. However I'm sure some (few) people will que that don't care and just want to que faster (e.g. dps).

    But with this solution you can pretty much bet that any tanks/healers queing for CM will be first timers in CM. However, CM runs really smooth overall, it's not really hard even if everyone is a first timer.

    Also: They could remove philo from CM as long as they give us something other than AK and WP to get Philo and to get Philo efficiently. E.g. it takes 40 some CM runs to get Relic and Full Darklight... nearly double that if you do it with AK (which takes longer).
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    Last edited by Ryios; 10-03-2013 at 07:26 AM.

  10. #10
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    Kailea_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Kailea Nagisa
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Sorry but "go to the inn and watch them later" is not a valid solution at all. I play RPGs for the story, I like FFXIVs story, and watching the cut scenes in their intended places, gives what I am doing meaning and over all understanding of what is going on. Once I watch them once, I will skip away, until then, I will watch then when they show up, and I will not skip them. You can pout and bitch all you want, you can throw tantrums an quit the group, I do not care.
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