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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennica View Post
    I didn't know RMT was illegal sorry.
    not to mention, you are selling SE's intellectual property
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    How did their bank accounts get banned? Unless I read that wrong. Unless the IRS and the Feds were involved I can't see their accounts getting banned, especially if they use paypal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post
    Sorry for my sarcastic reply. But yes, Selling virtual currency for real life money is illegal and goes against the TOS and EULA we ALL agree to upon playing the game. I don't fault you for not reading it, no one does. But it is there.
    There is no law in any country that i know of that makes it illegal to purchase virtual currency with real currency. There is a rule against it in the TOS. Illegal, and breaking a TOS are two separate things. Lol. Also, to people comparing Gil sellers to drug dealers? Just lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker View Post
    How did their bank accounts get banned? Unless I read that wrong. Unless the IRS and the Feds were involved I can't see their accounts getting banned, especially if they use paypal.
    I would imagine they segregate their characters into different categories to keep their buisness ends straight. They would have something like "bank" characters, "advertizing" Characters "earning" characters, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laryndra View Post
    There is no law in any country that i know of that makes it illegal to purchase virtual currency with real currency. There is a rule against it in the TOS. Illegal, and breaking a TOS are two separate things. Lol. Also, to people comparing Gil sellers to drug dealers? Just lmao.
    Fair enough. Poor choice of wording on my part. Honestly I have not even read the TOS or EULA either.
    And ya, the comparison was sarcastic and meant for an extreme example. But you gotta admit, some similarities can be drawn.
    "Hey, Low level character, I have some stuff here you might like. If you give me your lunch money I can help get you some gear that makes you feel invincible. Just dont tell anyone about it, it will be our little secret."
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    Last edited by ZakarnRosewood; 10-04-2013 at 02:47 AM.

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    Ahh that makes sense. I didn't put too much thought into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laryndra View Post
    There is no law in any country that i know of that makes it illegal to purchase virtual currency with real currency. There is a rule against it in the TOS. Illegal, and breaking a TOS are two separate things. Lol. Also, to people comparing Gil sellers to drug dealers? Just lmao.
    intellectual property laws.
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    Personally I don't give a damn if someone else buys gil. I don't do it mostly because my main goal thus far was to -make- gill myself (crafting). I hate the shit out of RMT spammers and i wish they would die in a horrible fire. But I don't -give a damn- if the guy next to me wants to spend money on gil. Truthfully Gil does -very little- in this game. The most you can get with it is ilv 70 crafted gear, which is only -slightly- better than Darklight (and in some cases inferior). Good, SE took some of the gil out of the system.. but seriously people get way too worked up over what some mastercard dual wielding 12 year old does with mommies money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    intellectual property laws.
    Please, quote any case in which any person has been sued or placed in jail for buying or selling virtual currency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laryndra View Post
    Please, quote any case in which any person has been sued or placed in jail for buying or selling virtual currency.
    i didnt say there were cases.. its like jaywalking.. its illegal, but you dont see anyone getting tickets for it. you ARE selling someones intellectual property, the simple solution is to just ban them, if its too widespread they can move forward if they want with getting the accounts frozen. and if they persist, they'll likely sue them.

    edit: i found this to be thorough

    http://www.curse.com/news/world-of-w...s-using-paypal
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    Last edited by Hanabira; 10-04-2013 at 03:03 AM.

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    I would also bet there are conflicting international laws at play as well. Like using Swiss bank accounts to launder real money or evade taxes.
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    Last edited by ZakarnRosewood; 10-04-2013 at 03:08 AM.

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