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  1. #31
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    Reinheart's Avatar
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    Reinheart Valentine
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    Quote Originally Posted by RGAWL View Post
    I play in a speed run today and they ask everybody to skip the instance in Castrum. It was my first time there so I say sure. When I finish and look at the book at the inn room only two cut scene show. I have to do it again or watch it on youtube. So if somebody ask you to skip the instances don't listen.
    If you're going to check it in the Inn, the cut scenes are there, they have it in a different category so check in there.
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  2. #32
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    Grum Kand'ari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakiie View Post
    Oh right for the immersion.

    I'm so close to this guard he can feel my breath, but don't worry, since I'm behind him he won't notice a thing!

    Oh noes, they got an assault craft! What'll we do. oh nvm, here's a conveniently placed anti-air cannon. Yes, the story is so good and the game is so immersive, holy crap!
    Gaming 101: People generally play RPGs for the immersive and entertaining stories. This game, however, isn't strictly an RPG. Its an MMORPG! That means the immersion of the RPG is slightly offset by the MMO part. There are certain game mechanics, like your example of the conveniently placed cannon, which need to be in place to facilitate large amounts of people doing the same content simultaneously and seamlessly. These are acceptable immersion breakers for the most part. Cancelling a relatively short storyline cutscene to save a few minutes of time is NOT an acceptable level of immersion breaking. Get over it.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alish View Post
    You guys can tell people to watch cut-scenes in the inn all you want, but lets face it they're not nearly as immersive to watch if you skip and watch them later.

    If you want speedruns, join premades. If you're going to que DF for it, don't be a prick about it if its someone elses first time.
    "Immersion" is a ridiculous thing to begin with, but here we go, if you actually see a difference between watching it in the dungeon and the inn room, your basically telling me that when you play this game the world around you in your mind changes like you were just teleported into the game, the walls are changing and now you see a dungeon all around you, you actually think your fighting a dragon.

    Immersion is the early stages of insanity, a story is a story, watching it in 1 pixilated area is the same as another.
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  4. #34
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    Cally Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    If you're going to check it in the Inn, the cut scenes are there, they have it in a different category so check in there.
    They are under "Duty" if i remember right, why they split them is beyond me. Watch them if you want though. None of them are that long, was in a prea group that had all new but me and one other, told people to watch if they want. Wiped three times or so, still had over 30 mins on the clock when we finished.
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  5. #35
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    People giving in to skipping cutscenes on their first time is just stupid honestly. If you want to watch it, watch it. Nothing forces you to skip it.
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  6. #36
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    Alish's Avatar
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    Kaji Nari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
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    You're over thinking it way too much. While you won't see a difference whether you watch it at the inn or during the dungeon, you will definitely FEEL the difference. The overall pacing of the dungeons and the cut scenes that follow provide a seamless yet engaging way to experience the story of the game.

    Through gameplay you can give a player a sense of urgency that would not be felt otherwise if you were to just straight up watch a cut scene, and the cut scenes themselves are only half the experience, the gameplay that follows before and after is what completes them. Your logic would make sense if we were talking about a movie but we're not.
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    Last edited by Alish; 10-03-2013 at 09:09 AM.

  7. #37
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    kazaran's Avatar
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    Elrond Peredhel
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    this idiotic debating going on. We really don't need the game community plummeting any more then it has. It is becoming so childish it is ridiculous.

    You can't force anyone to skip cutscenes. Sure it is annoying if you are trying to collect your 100 tomes, as well as lack patience.

    However if you took the time to take a few deep breath, focus on yourself and impatience, you will better yourself and have a healthier life. Gain maturity while at it.

    Some times I just want to get my tomes. However I am also aware of simple facts. Anyone who wants to watch a cutscene on a DF run, is entitled to it as a paying customer. Regardless of what anyone else wants for their own needs. They are part of the story and run. An aspect o the game. Debate ends there. There are parts of the story line that are customizes only at the point it is watched live.

    Berating, calling names, threatening, are all forms of harassment. They are actually against the TOS. I have actually seen someone in a run be rude too three others to the point, they filed complaints and he ended up banned for 15 days. He is a friend of mine who allowed this game to push him the wrong way and mimic other arrogance. As a result he was banned. Which sadly, I had to agree with. So Keep that in mind.


    As far as misconceptions to a KICK option. SE cleared it up in a Japanese broadcast. It will be for inactive/DCing people (factors have to be met), not simply because you do not like someone or they are watching cutscenes. Exploitation of it will be a breach in the TOS as well.


    Things to help you avoid unknowingly breaking TOS, and chancing a ban.

    1. Do not exploit the game.
    2. Do not exploit others.
    3. Do not harass other players. Call them offensive names, deface, threaten, or make false claims.
    4. Do not exploit normal game functions, match making, or attempt to create situations that cause unfair advantage to all paying customers. That included in game services not deemed official. (bans already happened for it).

    Comes down to a simple things. Learn patience. Learn maturity. Learn that you are only another paying customer, nothing more. Learn to be civil.
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  8. #38
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    Haru Degurechaff
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    Sadly seems like it's getting worse. Just had a pug duty finder group CM where an overgeared tank called us selfish for not having more gear and then proceeded to afk the last part of the dungeon......ironic eh? We still cleared the run fast and efficiently.
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  9. #39
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    Yeah i will pay to watch a movie in the cinema but not watch it at the time and watch it on dvd at home because it is more convenient for someone else.
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  10. #40
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    Ashelia Lucrenien
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixmp View Post
    Yeah i will pay to watch a movie in the cinema but not watch it at the time and watch it on dvd at home because it is more convenient for someone else.
    Then stop playing. Easy solution.
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    This Miqo'te THM/BLM desires nothing but death and destruction of Garlean Empire.
    *under construction* *be aware of falling materials* *we hold no responsibility for injury or death*

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