Do you think bard desired a nerfing soon.

[neoreturn]

Add one more op in the list posted.

[Farrell]

I advocate a nerf as an avid bard player. Weeds out all the people who play Bard just for the fact that he's strong. I love my bard and don't want to see him abused by the FotM trainhoppers.

If Musketeer comes out that will do a good job of doing that as well. And what happens if they make more caster classes, and ppl still don't want melee....

[Daudr]

Im liking this. Bards SHOULD be support class. Regen health, Haste, bolster ac, lift spirits (give mana) etc, but in a way that it is compensating for the bard NOT doing any damage, since he is busy playing his tunes. a class completely different from MMO's so far, that does not care about damage but rather uses his songs to win the battle.

That's not "completely different from MMOs." Everquest had a true Bard that was full support and had a ton of situational abilities. Vanguard even allowed Bards to build their own songs to piece together songs useful in specific fights/situations. FFXIV is the one that has Archers with a couple of bonus abilities.

[mushashi]

it si pretty easy right now every job(dps)can do aroound200-250 dps.
but when u have to avoid aoes and run etc everyjob dps goes down to 170-200 where bard can do their 250 dps still.
BARD MUST get a cast time on their 1 spam botton,or get combos that they need go the side or behind mob.
right now they are a god mode,0 cast skill,0 position requirement,0 combo skill,the same dps that every job,the best support skill of all jobs.
who cant see this it is because he is a bard.

[Gallows]

BARD MUST get a cast time on their 1 spam botton,or get combos that they need go the side or behind mob.

As much as id like to see the skill cap raised for bards, this is not something id implement on a ranged class.

Imagine 4 cones coming out of the mob - front, back and sides. Those are the areas you have to be in to fire off positional skills. Right at the mob the cone is quite narrow, you can move from one positional requirement to another in half a second. Thats melee range. The further away you get the wider the cone becomes. At max range youd need 3-4 seconds (or more) to move from one to another. It's just not viable, especially that the mob will often turn to to launch special attacks at players or to follow the tank who had to move to the side to avoid aoe. For melee its a bit of a challenge, for ranged it would just be impossible... unless they stayed in melee all the time, which defeats the purpose of being a ranged class.

Making different bard shots have different range requirements (close, medium, max) on the other hand... I could see that working if done right.

[kalfis049]

BRD's dont need nerfs. Melee just need buffs to the point where BRD's arnt out dpsing them all the time.

[Lecreuset]

I for one am kind of jealous about having to use combos and positioning, that's why I'm levelling a lancer.. lvl 34 right now enjoying it so far

[7thPawn]

I was a bard in FFXI and I loved the fact that I was a support tool. Highest exp runs happened with a bard in a group pulling like a crazy person with a severe impulse problem. I didn't need to DPS cause my ability to buff the casters, then the DPSers, and debuff the enemy all in one shot allowed everyone else to destroy things faster than they could have alone. There weren't many of us around cause no one wanted to take a back seat, but then again it was nearly impossible at the time to do more than 10k exp/hr without one. I don't think they need to be nerfed. I think that the songs should be the most important feature of them again. Instead of giving a -20% damage debuff for singing mages ballad for instance, I think that the bard should get a permanent -20% damage debuff on them unless they have a song active. Keeps them doing damage, but for shorter intervals as they have to recharge for the next song due to MP, and it makes them support a party again.

[Praqzis]

I was a bard in FFXI and I loved the fact that I was a support tool. Highest exp runs happened with a bard in a group pulling like a crazy person with a severe impulse problem. I didn't need to DPS cause my ability to buff the casters, then the DPSers, and debuff the enemy all in one shot allowed everyone else to destroy things faster than they could have alone. There weren't many of us around cause no one wanted to take a back seat, but then again it was nearly impossible at the time to do more than 10k exp/hr without one. I don't think they need to be nerfed. I think that the songs should be the most important feature of them again...

I didn't play FFXI but this is exactly what I was hoping from a Bard class. As a musician in real-life, it appeals to me . Also, I'm just general a support class kind of guy (main is healer). I'm actually just starting to level Archer to get a Bard in the hopes it turns into this :P.

[neoreturn]

BRD's dont need nerfs. Melee just need buffs to the point where BRD's arnt out dpsing them all the time.

Melee need buff and barb need a nerfing at the same time.