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  1. #41
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    Naelle's Avatar
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    Robin Gunn
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Overpower gives enmity = damage x3. With defiance it's damage x6. That's way higher than flash as a Warrior.
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    Please l2tank. You are telling ppl who are on turn 5 to l2p, are u freaking kidding me? You think we need you to tank trash in the first place? lel, I have 4.4k health with food and party buff on a freaking BLM...I will wipe 3-4 trash before you are able to finish half your rotation and you are complaining?

    Powered DPS = no bees, no wipes, no 3rd add on last boss..heck first boss would die before he is able to summon a 3rd golem.

    This thread isn't about you, okay? Is that so hard to understand? Its one thing if the mobs actually do DIE that quickly, but when the dds have all this endgame crap and can't even down the voidwalker summoner before she summons, even if I stun it, they are doing it wrong.
    Gotta love how you're jumping on me to defend bad dds.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    Mobs die before hate can be lost, you really need to let the fact that you are bad soak in, your the gimp pld in DF who ditches groups for doing their job.
    Please l2read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naelle View Post
    Overpower gives enmity = damage x3. With defiance it's damage x6. That's way higher than flash as a Warrior.
    I'll keep this in mind, I usually hold off on it because I'm expecting sleeps on those than can be slept (particularly to interrupt the voidwalker summoners, as my single stun isn't enough if dds are all over the place). I'll try starting with that on close groups like the fanatics when I run with the 'big boys' from now on.
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    Last edited by Amyas; 10-01-2013 at 03:24 AM.

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    Sentinel Guardian
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
    Attention undergeared tanks in AK, please mark your mobs. Countless times I've done it now where the tank never marks and then goes "why you do that?", it wouldn't be an issue if the dps was overgeared if tanks would actually mark in the first place, many of which do not.
    Your point has no relevance since the OP already indicated that he does mark mobs, yer just butt hurt that your original point had no validity so yer trying to grasp at straws, get over it.
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  5. #45
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    KujinRen's Avatar
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    Sammeo Guy
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alish View Post
    As the saying goes, you take it, you tank it.
    Actually it is: You spank it, you tank it.
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  6. #46
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    Atriese Lolo
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    If you want to go all out, fine, but do it on the marked mob, if not, you get to be the tank and I'll leave. I'm not there to play a game of trash mob ping-pong with you, especially when you've apparently ran it enough to know better.
    I'm sure they are all here reading this....
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  7. #47
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    NeoAmon's Avatar
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    Sparda Amon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    This thread isn't about you, okay? Is that so hard to understand? Its one thing if the mobs actually do DIE that quickly, but when the dds have all this endgame crap and can't even down the voidwalker summoner before she summons, even if I stun it, they are doing it wrong.
    Gotta love how you're jumping on me to defend bad dds.
    Nay, you said you would leave if we picked up aggro, that alone made me rage. What worse than AK is a bad tank who leaves cause deaps are doing too much dmg...

    Would you like us to count to 10 or 20 before we start auto pilot mode in this headache invoking dungeon? If dps in your group are badly geared and pulling aggro from you, I think you need to review what you are doing. If they are highly geared then play the freaking ping pong and enjoy the 23-25min AK ride.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 10-01-2013 at 03:29 AM.

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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    If you want to go all out, fine, but do it on the marked mob, if not, you get to be the tank and I'll leave. I'm not there to play a game of trash mob ping-pong with you, especially when you've apparently ran it enough to know better.
    Attention inferior tanks: learn to tank more than 1 mob at a time regardless of which target your dps decides to hit, you need to learn how to hold multiple mobs that are both being attacked by different dps (cough turn 4 cough)

    Attention dps: if you don't want to go all out, please leave, you're just slowing down the run at that point
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  9. #49
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    Soul Burn
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Take it as a personal challenge to hold aggro at all times regardless of what your team mates do.

    No you aren't going to win every time but doing this has kept me improving as a player.


    Edit also ignore these jaded dps in here mouthing off about how good they are.
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    Sparda Amon
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vmage View Post
    Attention inferior tanks: learn to tank more than 1 mob at a time regardless of which target your dps decides to hit, you need to learn how to hold multiple mobs that are both being attacked by different dps (cough turn 4 cough)

    Attention dps: if you don't want to go all out, please leave, you're just slowing down the run at that point
    God, I love tanks like you, ty for being awesome like my MT and OT ^^.
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