Worst end game community ever?

[Makeda]

That game generally had a slightly older player base though, guess that helped

I don't believe even SE knows the average age of their players. That info was not anywhere in my account creation screens that I remember.

So not sure where your data comes from on that.

As an almost 43 year old player, I find some of the worst people are in my demographic: older working adults. Some years back when my nephew was a bit too young, playing WoW at then 11, I'd watch what he was up to and it was frankly harmless and rarely rude. It was very juvenile - but more silly. Stuff like trying to convince people to run around on gnomes in their underwear dancing in cities... or telling jokes from cartoon characters. Once he became a teen, he lost all interest in the MMOs that 'old people' where playing - preferring to spend his time on Facebook chatting up girls.

But people I know are adults, married, sometimes with kids - they were get downright vile in these games. Only two times in WoW was I ever able to find nicer more polite communities. First when it was a guild of notably older players. Me at then my later 30s being the youngest member by almost a decade. And second a family guild, where many parents gamed with their kids - so policies were in place about conduct and the kids were not at all problematic. That guild only blew up when we got more 20/30-somethings that were full of rage.

Don't presume that the bad community you find at endgame here is age-related. Many factors can be at play, but I do not agree that that is notably one of them.

[Maza]

The first dungeon you do in the story I experienced this bulloney, the very first one elitest bs. I chose to level gatherer and crafters instead of battle classes and it has been paying off keeping my crafters ahead of my fighters (HQ gear all the way). By the time the battle classes get to end game hopefully the end game psychos will have moved on.

[aphexacid]

Im just guessing based on the people that were in my linkshells, like I said I've played no other mmos to compare it to.

FFxi had already been going a while when I started as well so it had time to settle down,. hopefully that will happen in xiv

[Eclipsed]

I only really have ffxi to compare it to but I remember end game being far more laid back in that. I certainly don't remember any of these problems in sky, dynamis etc

That game generally had a slightly older player base though, guess that helped

LOL! FFXI was the absolute worst MMO community before FFXIV. It was like high school drama on steroids 24/7. I have never seen so many cliques and snobbery as I saw in that game.

[aphexacid]

Hmm, the nostalgia must be clouding my memory then

[Jeronlmo]

Hmm, the nostalgia must be clouding my memory then

No, depends on the server, some were good, some were bad.

On fenrir my hnmls killed every other hnmls, so the server was calm, there was no fighting because we had no competition for 6yrs+.

Most if not all other server hnmls's didn't manage to do this, so if you were involved in endgame, you saw fighting.

[Jeronlmo]

Hit 50 about 3 days ago. This weekend is the first chance I've had to play around with some of the end game content. So far I've gotta say the overall dbagishness, eliteness of the end game players has seriously made me reconsider subscribing.

Experience #1

Doing palace VIA DUTY FINDER for the story-line. Get in. The first thing I get is two guys talking about how bad me (and a few others) armor is, it's crap, why are we here, blah,blah blah.

Then the 'speed grinding starts'. Absolutely no watching cut scenes were told. Chop chop. Throughout the whole map were constantly harped on for making mistakes, told how bad we are as DPS, yada, yada.

Here's my problem: You have all these "pro" players essentially farming the same dungeon over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Putting ungoldy amounts of time into farming their very special gear, then bitching whenever new players come along and disturb their mindless dungeon grind.

Im waiting for you to list the endgame.

100% blame SE for making storyline/easy dungeons the most effective way to farm tokens, which are required to get darklight and materials to craft rosegold items, the fact that people always speedrun these is because we run these dungeons literally hundreds of times, I personally hit the 100 dungeon mark about a week ago. You can watch the CS's in your inn room with no difference in story or I can take an extra 30min's for every single dungeon, hundreds of them, just going off of my first 100 that's an extra 50hrs for randoms to watch CS's.

[Terius]

Well all the public shouts are making me lol these days.

"LF X with Gear/Experience for Titan HM!!!"

If someone had the gear/experience, why would they go back to it and help 'you' out when they could move on?

xD

[Jeronlmo]

Well all the public shouts are making me lol these days.

"LF X with Gear/Experience for Titan HM!!!"

If someone had the gear/experience, why would they go back to it and help 'you' out when they could move on?

xD

I've seen groups shouting for relic only groups which means all of them must be killing it for titan weapons... which is kinda ridiculous considering its literally easier to just go do a relic than try to farm a specific primal weapon. Though gear and experience req's are understood, maybe you will understand after failing 20+ groups who don't understand that the heart is a dps race, and you dodge or die.

[Gucci_Charms]

I haven't played this game in awhile because of work business trips and so on.

Based on my experience so far, however, I can say the end-game community is pretty unfriendly. While leveling from 1 to 50, I found people to be very friendly since you're all trying to grind towards the same end goal. Post-50, that's when players' real colours show. Players become more unfriendly, rage-like, and elitists. I also found the 1.0 endgame community more friendly than the ARR player base.

Because this is an online game, no one is entitled to anything - good or bad. You kind of have to go with the flow of the community. If you want friendly people though, you are better off befriending a friendly LS/FC that is open to helping new players or like-minded individuals.