The opportunity cost of shield bash is too darned high

[Steeled]

On mispulls CandyKiss, I feel like I've got a lot more to do than Shield Bash. Rotating cooldowns, doing my rotation to sustain all the hate necessary, I don't feel like it's worth the trying to time through the animation lock, but maybe that's just me.

I think the ability would be perfect off the GCD, but re-triggering it, and either no longer interrupting a combo, or starting a single target, or aoe combo.

[broren]

It would be great if it weren't on the global cooldown, but still trigger it. Sucks doing a basic attack chain and boss happens to do an eruption and you're stuck on the gcd. Having it off the gcd means paladins who spam it won't be able to get use out of it and shows better skill on those who can control it vs not, and lets players see who can perform better than others. Right now we have to throttle threat/actions vs stun and it's quite boring and/or frustrating.

[Citizen_Thom]

First, I realize the potential of having a stun on such a short cooldown, and how wonderful it is. However, I feel that the many layered cost of the ability is punitive. Some of these would be fine, but all together, it's too much. I'm not asking for all/most of these facets to be changed. This is an evaluation of each aspect and how I might change that particular aspect.

TP cost - At 150 tp, a paladin regularly weaving in shield bash can find himself out of TP relatively quickly.

Enmity generation - I feel like the ability should generate more enmity, perhaps as much as RoHalone (not the total of the combo, but the RoH itself at the end of the combo.

Interrupts Chains - Using the ability interrupts our combo. I would change this, or allow it to setup it's own combo with perhaps RoH or Flash for increased enmity.

Global Cooldown - Biggest complaint. Stuns on the global cooldown are not fun. You end up camping the button for dangerous moves and basically just sitting there swinging your wittle sword while you wait. I fully believe Shield Bash should trigger the gcd, but be able to be used at any time during it.

The GCD and TP cost together really do kill the ability. I use it when I'm soloing, but I've found that it is hit and miss on cancelling special attacks in dungeons... it's sort of like the AOE thing. You get the shield swipe done in time from what you're seeing on the screen... but the special attack happens anyways... what's the point with the high tp cost?

[antiviolence]

First world gladiator/paladin problems

[Brutallyn]

you want a stun of gcd for a low cost but with a long recast? that's the warrior stun. you want a stun that's always ready, but costs a lot more? hello pld.
perfect split if you ask me.
you just can't have it all on 1 class.

Brut

[SsjMits]

I like the how the stun on War is too. Feels more balanced out then on Pld.

[Onisake]

There are literally 0 things wrong with PLD right now. it's well balanced. scales well with all content. can be used in almost any situation.

Why are you asking for a buff? it doesn't need it. at all.

[Ehayte]

Having it off the gcd means paladins who spam it won't be able to get use out of it and shows better skill on those who can control it vs not, and lets players see who can perform better than others. Right now we have to throttle threat/actions vs stun and it's quite boring and/or frustrating.

If you spam it, the mob will eventually start to resist all stuns. Mobs kind of build a tolerance to stuns - the more you use it, the more their resistance to it grows.

This ability is super OPed right now, lol. I think most people here are mainly referring to the Ifrit fight - You lose a marginal amount of DPS (not a TON if you have your stunning pal use Sword Oath) to be able to completely negate the most difficult part of the encounter. Having unlimited access to stuns/interupts is unbelievable. Granted that particular strategy doesn't make for a fun time, but it is rewarding to be the person saving everyone else from certain doom.

[Kenka]

Granted that particular strategy doesn't make for a fun time, but it is rewarding to be the person saving everyone else from certain doom.

Not too rewarding to be the person insulted to death when your Shield Bash is resisted because someone else is stunning, though...

[Steeled]

There are literally 0 things wrong with PLD right now. it's well balanced. scales well with all content. can be used in almost any situation.

Why are you asking for a buff? it doesn't need it. at all.

Just because Warrior has problems doesn't mean that Paladin is perfect. Although Paladin is a fine spot, and I'm generally happy with where it is.

I think have Shield bash on no CD (save for the length of the global cooldown) is pretty stupid. I dislike fights where my role (in any game) is primarily or exclusively stunning. It's not rewarding beyond the first time.