Lagg upon lagg upon lagg

[Lithera]

124 ms should be perfectly fine and virtually unnoticeable. It sounds like you may have one of the ISPs that is throttling FFXIV as if it were P2P software so you're getting spikes as a result. That, or, as the previous poster said, there may be an issue at one of the "hops" the connection takes between you and the game servers. Every ISP routes connections differently so it isn't something SE can control directly. Honestly I think some ISPs need a kick in the head because I've seen hops that go halfway around the world the wrong way before reaching the destination. There's no reason it should take almost 20 hops to get from EU to the FFXIV game servers.

[Conkers]

124 ms should be perfectly fine and virtually unnoticeable. It sounds like you may have one of the ISPs that is throttling FFXIV as if it were P2P software so you're getting spikes as a result. That, or, as the previous poster said, there may be an issue at one of the "hops" the connection takes between you and the game servers. Every ISP routes connections differently so it isn't something SE can control directly. Honestly I think some ISPs need a kick in the head because I've seen hops that go halfway around the world the wrong way before reaching the destination. There's no reason it should take almost 20 hops to get from EU to the FFXIV game servers.

Sorry but these are excuses, decent MMOs have separate European and NA data centres because that provides better performance - less hops, less hubs to go through, less lag spikes (and smaller lag spikes) and less packet loss, that an MMO asking for a sub does not have separate data centres is a joke.

[Sixmp]

Sorry but these are excuses, decent MMOs have separate European and NA data centres because that provides better performance - less hops, less hubs to go through, less lag spikes (and smaller lag spikes) and less packet loss, that an MMO asking for a sub does not have separate data centres is a joke.

You ever hear of FFXI? That game has been running for 11 years. It has one data center for the whole planet. Game plays fine.
What you claimed are excuses are the realities of the internet.

[Conkers]

You ever hear of FFXI? That game has been running for 11 years. It has one data center for the whole planet. Game plays fine.
What you claimed are excuses are the realities of the internet.

Judging from Google results it does not play fine, the reality is basic physics and networking mean localised data centres give better performance, which is why many games go to the expense of having separate data centres, your excuses don't alter that fact.

[Sixmp]

Judging from Google results it does not play fine, the reality is basic physics and networking mean localised data centres give better performance, which is why many games go to the expense of having separate data centres, your excuses don't alter that fact.

If it didn't play fine it wouldn't have lasted 11 years and still be going. Naturally a localized data center would give better results.
It does not however mean that playing the game where it is would make the game unplayable. I know this to be fact as i have played FFXI and i also have no problems in my server in Canada and i am playing from the UK.

I am sure i could google any other mmo out there and find server problems even with localized servers. Therefore my points are valid and therefore are not as you like to point out excuses.

[Conkers]

Naturally a localized data center would give better results.

Exactly.

It does not however mean that playing the game where it is would make the game unplayable. I know this to be fact as i have played FFXI and i also have no problems in my server in Canada and i am playing from the UK.

I am sure i could google any other mmo out there and find server problems even with localized servers. Therefore my points are valid and therefore are not as you like to point out excuses.

The fact you can play from the UK is virtually meaningless, unless you think your particular internet connection is representative of every customer and that every European customer lives in the UK.

[Anderian]

You ever hear of FFXI? That game has been running for 11 years. It has one data center for the whole planet. Game plays fine.
What you claimed are excuses are the realities of the internet.

Why is it that there are always people on these forums that do nothing but try to defend the poor state the servers are in? You'd have to be blind to not see the constant stuttering the servers are experiencing. I can't speak for other servers, but Odin lags like a <expletive> every night. EVERY. NIGHT. Doesn't matter what day, from monday to sunday, constant lag spikes during EU primetime well into the night. So why do you people feel the need to belittle the problem, or have the audacity to suggest that the problem is on the user's end, when it's pretty clear it's not. Most MMOs use regional servers for a good reason, it's not some crazy new invention.

[Tupsi]

Why is it that there are always people on these forums that do nothing but try to defend the poor state the servers are in? Y

Why is it that there are always people on the forums thinking everyone is having lag issues when it's only a very vocal group of people that are? If the servers are in a poor state, everyone would be affected, you know, like how we had to fight our way onto the servers? Remember that? THAT was an issue that affected everyone.

[Sixmp]

Why is it that there are always people on these forums that do nothing but try to defend the poor state....

Oh gosh you are right, i must be imagining my smooth gaming experience.
Maybe it isn't a case of defending but more of a case of pointing out other factors that could be causing the problem. You know... trying to be helpful in some small way.
Sorry if i just don't blindly dash out with you with my torch and pitchfork.
Maybe there are prime time problems to do with too many connections etc but as silly as it may appear to you not every single connection problem will be that.

I offered information and other factors to look at. Nothing more.

[Rillifane]

Sorry but these are excuses, decent MMOs have separate European and NA data centres because that provides better performance - less hops, less hubs to go through, less lag spikes (and smaller lag spikes) and less packet loss, that an MMO asking for a sub does not have separate data centres is a joke.

Shorter distance doesn't automatically mean fewer hops, or better performance from said hops or the cabling used between them. People need to think twice before stating things like this.