Get rid of the prices in market search

[origamikitsune]

That's a good way of doing it but it's not going to get you to 50 because to go from 30 to 50 you're looking at about 4000 synths. How long do you think it will take you to sell 4000 profitable items or 1333 stacks of arrows? If everyone tried to do what you do the cost of arrows would be about 5k gil a stack and us archers would be very happy.

You don't lose much gil on masks anyway, CRP is probably the cheapest craft to rank up. A walnut mask sells for about 1500 gil to an NPC, you can buy a log for 8k so that's what, 500 gil loss per synth plus shards. 4k synths is 2mil gil. Hardly worth going into the kind of effort you are to skill up. If you make the shards yourself from fish and crystals you can do that cheap too. There's faster ways of recovering that 2mil + shard cost than doing what you're doing. Like getting to 50 sometime before next year and HQing crab bows. :P All those items you can HQ at 50 are losing value the longer it takes you to get there. You're losing gil there.



Does your customer have a screen outside your shop telling you what your price is, your neighbour's price is and every other shop in the city's price is? No? Then don't compare it to the real world. I believe I covered this already.

People are clearly missing the point/unable to read in this thread. Coming out with tripe like "if someone can sell their product cheaper than you then they should" because this isn't about selling it cheaper, it's about moving your product first. Do people honestly care about the 1k gil they lose from undercutting a stack of 10k items by 10 gil? Do you honestly believe they're undercutting because of price? Yet half this thread seems to think yes.

No, they're undercutting because they want their name at the top of the list in the same way a child always wants to go first. Their name will always be at the top of the list, because selling it for 10 gil less than whatever you list it at is irrelevant to them. I have started to combat the issue somewhat however. My alt character is almost always sat by the market wards when my main is out on the field.

Does my customer have a screen showing the price of my item and the price of my competitors item. That's a very good question, and a very valid point.

In fact, they do. Many of them do, at least. Certainly, I use my cellphone to price shop. Even aside from all the apps for all the different cell phones, a couple pokes and prods on my cell phone will tell me the price of, say, Final Fantasy XIV at all the local game stores in my zip code, or city, or state through a web browser.

I still fail to see the issue with this, which is to say that I understand your point of view; I do however believe it is wrong. While there needs to be some tweaking of the things that affect the economy, such as the removal of goods, more gil sinks to keep inflation down, etc., removal of the prices - i believe at least - is not an overall benefit to the economy.

[Xenor]

Does my customer have a screen showing the price of my item and the price of my competitors item. That's a very good question, and a very valid point.

In fact, they do. Many of them do, at least. Certainly, I use my cellphone to price shop. Even aside from all the apps for all the different cell phones, a couple pokes and prods on my cell phone will tell me the price of, say, Final Fantasy XIV at all the local game stores in my zip code, or city, or state through a web browser.

I still fail to see the issue with this, which is to say that I understand your point of view; I do however believe it is wrong. While there needs to be some tweaking of the things that affect the economy, such as the removal of goods, more gil sinks to keep inflation down, etc., removal of the prices - i believe at least - is not an overall benefit to the economy.

It depends what you're shopping for I guess. If you're doing your groceries for example you're hardly going to look up each item because that's just a ridiculous amount of time wasted and you'd end up visiting multiple shops which in the end won't save you more than a few pounds/dollars. Only when I'm buying something expensive do I care enough to price compare. Price compare is forced on you for everything in FFXIV which is why you can't relate it to the real world.

I already conceded that almost everyone doesn't want prices removed and that making items rarer and adding gil sinks is probably a better solution. But in reality most people on here won't be happy until NPCs sell everything for 1 gil so any solutions to fix the economy will be bashed except by a small minority of people with common sense.

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You act like removing prices would only benefit me. No, this is simply not true. It benefits everyone who ever sells anything. You get your fair price and you get your *** sold just as fast as those who have the ability to sit by the market wards all day. I fail to see how this makes me greedy because I'd probably end up selling some things slower as a result.

But you're just copy and pasting arguments that have been done to death and already answered a couple of posts above yours so I need say no more.

[Anty]

It depends what you're shopping for I guess. If you're doing your groceries for example you're hardly going to look up each item because that's just a ridiculous amount of time wasted and you'd end up visiting multiple shops which in the end won't save you more than a few pounds/dollars. Only when I'm buying something expensive do I care enough to price compare. Price compare is forced on you for everything in FFXIV which is why you can't relate it to the real world.

I already conceded that almost everyone doesn't want prices removed and that making items rarer and adding gil sinks is probably a better solution. But in reality most people on here won't be happy until NPCs sell everything for 1 gil so any solutions to fix the economy will be bashed except by a small minority of people with common sense.



You act like removing prices would only benefit me. No, this is simply not true. It benefits everyone who ever sells anything. You get your fair price and you get your *** sold just as fast as those who have the ability to sit by the market wards all day. I fail to see how this makes me greedy because I'd probably end up selling some things slower as a result.

But you're just copy and pasting arguments that have been done to death and already answered a couple of posts above yours so I need say no more.

removing the prices will increase the use of YG.com and people will not only have the prices but also the history
like it was before. Its annoying but people will use it... with so many crafters on all servers well see undercutting anyways.
I don't know why people don't get it...

[Rentahamster]

But in reality most people on here won't be happy until NPCs sell everything for 1 gil so any solutions to fix the economy will be bashed except by a small minority of people with common sense.

Hyperbole much?

Do you consider yourself to be the "small minority of people with common sense"?