Re-rolling from Warrior, thoughts?

[Appleh4x]

True or false: Inner Beast has no cooldown
Sylve believes Inner Beast has no cooldown.

As for Convalesence.... if you're implying that Convalescence helps WAR more because WAR has self-heals, thats wrong. Convalescence has no effect on WAR self-heals.

As for Scholar heals... that was already touched upon earlier in the thread.

I'm implying that it (Convalescence) helps more because WARs already get healed for more from Wrath stacks and the higher HP pools, so stacking on that goes further than with PLD. I'm not talking self heals; all outside heals. Inner Beast technically has no cooldown, and I've used it twice in a row on more than one occasion where the healer was either out of mp, dead from stupidity or a mistake, or just paralyzed.

[Ruminate]

I'm implying that it (Convalescence) helps more because WARs already get healed for more from Wrath stacks and the higher HP pools, so stacking on that goes further than with PLD. I'm not talking self heals; all outside heals. Inner Beast technically has no cooldown, and I've used it twice in a row on more than one occasion where the healer was either out of mp, dead from stupidity or a mistake, or just paralyzed.

20% damage reduction + 20% more healing gives better healing efficiency than 20% more healing + 15% more healing.
....and thats ignoring the fact that the PLD's version is actually 10% stronger.

If you cannot use it once every GCD, then it technically does have a cooldown. The cooldown is variable, but it still has a cooldown.
And using it twice in a row sounds great, except the PLD's cooldowns last longer than 2 GCDs.

[Appleh4x]

20% damage reduction + 20% more healing gives better healing efficiency than 20% more healing + 15% more healing.
....and thats ignoring the fact that the PLD's version is actually 10% stronger.

If you cannot use it once every GCD, then it technically does have a cooldown. The cooldown is variable, but it still has a cooldown.
And using it twice in a row sounds great, except the PLD's cooldowns last longer than 2 GCDs.

You say it like PLD has static 20% more damage resist which isn't true at all. WAR also has damage mit abilities, that albeit aren't AS good, but they fill in that gap between 20%. Parry rates and amount of damage negated from parry are also much higher with WAR because my strength and VIT are both very, very high. PLD STR is kind of useless and they basically have wasted points in Piety. All this + the huge amounts healed from inner beast all add up to damage mitigation equaling out between the two, or even being in WAR's favor with scholars and stoneskin happy WHM.

[Ruminate]

You say it like PLD has static 20% more damage resist which isn't true at all.

Wait, stop right there. Do you know what Shield Oath is?

[Appleh4x]

Wait, stop right there. Do you know what Shield Oath is?

Basically defiance, but mit instead of HP and 5% less; cancels out if you do sword oath. It's still a dynamic activate

[Eclipsed]

I have leveled and geared War, Pld, and Brd to 50 since launch.

If endgame is your goal :

Tank : PLD hands down, WAR is just unwanted and far less viable as a tank.

DPS : BRD, DRG, BLM (possibly SMN). There are a million DRG's and BRD's though so I would suggest one of the dps casters.

Healer : Both are needed and viable, choose whichever appeals to you the most.

Those are pretty much the best options. My choice for 8 man min/max raid group comp at this point : PLDx2, BRDx2, BLM(or SMN), DRG, WHM, SCH.

[LunarEmerald]

I have leveled and geared War, Pld, and Brd to 50 since launch.

If endgame is your goal :

Tank : PLD hands down, WAR is just unwanted and far less viable as a tank.

DPS : BRD, DRG, BLM (possibly SMN). There are a million DRG's and BRD's though so I would suggest one of the dps casters.

Healer : Both are needed and viable, choose whichever appeals to you the most.

Those are pretty much the best options. My choice for 8 man min/max raid group comp at this point : PLDx2, BRDx2, BLM(or SMN), DRG, WHM, SCH.

Most groups don't want melee DPS. Dragoons and Monks are left in the cold.

[Eclipsed]

Basically defiance, but mit instead of HP and 5% less; cancels out if you do sword oath. It's still a dynamic activate

You are an idiot. Shield Oath is a static buff that is up 100% of the time and reduces all damage by 20%, 100% of the time.

[Appleh4x]

You are an idiot. Shield Oath is a static buff that is up 100% of the time and reduces all damage by 20%, 100% of the time.

It isn't, the same way Defiance isn't. It's a buff that stays active until disabled by something, but you still have to activate it.

[Azostar]

If what you guys are saying is right it just sounds like people are just getting bad Warrior tanks, it's also possible to prevent damage if you know boss tactics using buffs like Foresight, then heal it back up using inner beast.