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    Azo Eister
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    Re-rolling from Warrior, thoughts?

    So I've spent the last few weeks leveling a Warrior, I work and don't have much time to play so forgive me for taking so long, but it was really disappointing to find out that warriors aren't even taken for late game dungeons.

    Don't jump to any conclusions about my toon, it's still not fully geared yet, so I don't really have first hand experience on the matter, but just by sitting around in revenants toll and reading forums I can get an overview of how things are happening at the moment. Warriors are not getting taken for groups because of the damage mitigation that paladins get, I've heard WARs are getting stomped in coil even with full DL gear. In chat channels all I see is free companys recruiting two paladin tanks for their end game groups, and WARs flooding chats looking for Titan HM's, I don't even think i've seen a PLD say looking for group once. Healer's are even complaining that warriors are simply not as easy to manage healing with compared to paladins.

    I just feel like sinking more time into a character that won't even be picked up for end game content is worthless, I don't have as much time to sink into the game as I did when I wasn't working, so I need to make the time I put in count, i've already lost quite a lot of it. I'm also a big end game player, so being denied that because nobody had any knowledge of the end game meta at release kinda sucks, it seems like there is no way I could ever get into or start a semi-hardcore free company because my class is universally worse than a paladin tank (i've heard good things about warrior speed runs to be fair).

    So on that basis i've decided to come to the forums and ask opinions from the general player base, do i re roll my class or stick it out? If I were to re roll my class I would also like to know if it would be faster making a new character for the quests or sticking with the character I have now. Also any suggestions on what class I should create?

    tl;dr: Re-rolling, what class should I make? What's most sought after?
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    Last edited by Azostar; 09-25-2013 at 07:42 PM. Reason: topic boldened

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    Nei Prime
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    Pld are way easier to heal and they have better cd's. Just suck it up and play pld for now until they fix war. You can MT titan as war just fine btw, but in coil you are really making life dificult for the group.
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    Lol. WAR kicks ass when played correctly. Don't believe the hype.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    PLD has way more damage mitigation and a lot more defensive cooldowns then war. PLDs have better utility a stun with no cooldown shield bash and a silence as well with spirits within. Silence is very important when fighting the ADS mobs in Coil.

    Its just bad bringing a warrior to coil not only will they take more damage and be harder to heal, they won't be able to silence high voltage on any ADS type mob. Makes almost everything harder taking a warrior to anything SE needs to fix the class.
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    These are great answers, but I was hoping for something a little more constructive.
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    Done everything but coil and i have 0 issues tanking or getting in groups. While my damage taken is greater than a paladins most my healers agree they aren't healing that much mmore than a paladin, warriors require much more skill and timing of CD's to get the job done though. Also Yoshi is hinting at buffs for the warrior in 2.1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazn View Post
    Done everything but coil and i have 0 issues tanking or getting in groups. While my damage taken is greater than a paladins most my healers agree they aren't healing that much mmore than a paladin, warriors require much more skill and timing of CD's to get the job done though. Also Yoshi is hinting at buffs for the warrior in 2.1
    The main problem with taking a warrior to coil silence, when fighting ADS bosses which appears in turn 1 and 2 you will not be able to silence their high voltage move which if it gets off usually will cause a wipe. You could get around this by having 2 bards do it. Also the snake boss at the end of turn 1 hits really hard and fast that you constantly need to be rolling cooldowns on it which warrior doesn't have enough to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azostar View Post
    These are great answers, but I was hoping for something a little more constructive.
    What kind of answer are you after? You already know the current state of things; wars are a distant second choice for BC.

    If you want to tank and you don't want to wait for a rebalance, level paladin. If you don't want to tank and you want to be the most desirable, level a healer. If you just want to be more desirable than a warrior, roll anything you like, but preferably ranged more than melee.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blazn View Post
    Done everything but coil and i have 0 issues tanking or getting in groups. While my damage taken is greater than a paladins most my healers agree they aren't healing that much mmore than a paladin, warriors require much more skill and timing of CD's to get the job done though. Also Yoshi is hinting at buffs for the warrior in 2.1
    Your healers are wrong. Paladins take significantly less base damage than warriors and have significantly more damage-reducing cooldowns than warriors. For warriors to begin to approach paladins, they need either more mitigation or they need an increase to healing received (which is still a less desirable mechanic to reducing incoming damage).
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    Last edited by Furious; 09-25-2013 at 07:48 PM.

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    Azo Eister
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furious View Post
    What kind of answer are you after? You already know the current state of things; wars are a distant second choice for BC.

    If you want to tank and you don't want to wait for a rebalance, level paladin. If you don't want to tank and you want to be the most desirable, level a healer. If you just want to be more desirable than a warrior, roll anything you like, but preferably more than melee.
    What kind of healer? I've heard there's a bit of a strap for scholars ATM at least on my server.

    Also I do love tanking, always played at least melee as a main role, how would I eve go about levelling after i've already finished my quests?
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    Last edited by Azostar; 09-25-2013 at 07:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azostar View Post
    What kind of healer? I've heard there's a bit of a strap for scholars ATM at least on my server.
    Either or; both have tools that make them desirable to niches. WHM has undoubtably better burst aoe healing, SCH has better longevity. In terms of tank healing, sch has better synergy with PLD (shields that don't rely on max hp, less reliance on regen which works better when you are less often topped off, etc). Both healers are in high demand by most groups, I don't think many groups aim for two of either type of healer rather than one of each.
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